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    Quote Originally Posted by ericgibbs View Post
    So its 5mm dia LED's, please state colour, voltage and operating current.?
    I am using red LEDs with an operating voltage of 1.85V and operating current of 20mA.


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    Too bad they don't make a 100 unit tall lite-brite. It's just black paper with a bulb behind it. Would have been bog easy to operate. Just add colored plastic pegs and they automatically light up.
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    Default How tall is that rocket??

    An easy way to do the LEDs would be bar graph displays as I posted before.
    neat, clean and not really expensive.
    you could insert into dip sockets mounted on copper clad perboard.
    you could light two at a time if the leds are too small.
    thinking one 10 pos dip switch and a 10 pos rotary switch is all you need.
    a power supply for each section of ten.
    that picture of the building sure cries out bar graph displays

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    Hi,

    just forget about my design. I didn't realize you want all LEDs on (bargraph).

    Anyway, using 5mm LEDs you could try to get low current types of 2mA current.

    In other words, any wall wart from 200mA output and up will suffice for the application. (Adjust LED current limiting resistors to the output voltage.)

    Using the minimum of 200mA output you could probably use the power supply to perform fireworks when the one million is done.

    Good luck with the project.

    I can already imagine the diabolic grin in your bosses face switching from 10,000 to 1,000,000 with a single switch.

    You can minimize this effect by connecting the switches as shown in the attachment.

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    I like the Lite-Brite idea best - no LEDs, one AC bulb and 100 pegs. You could build an LED rainbow with that kit, as the scale progresses. Perhaps your job depends upon you working under pressure, not designing innovative electronic displays.

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    Actually in hindsight the lite-brite version would probably be the easiest. A florescent tube running the height, perhaps a diffuser to keep the light even, some black construction paper and a strip of wood or plastic with 100 holes drilled in it.

    Can you still buy lite-bright to get the pegs?
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    Default wonder how professional the lite bright idea??

    nice idea but if you were a prospective client what would you think if you saw a light bright display in a bussiness enviroment?? just my opnion
    I think I have a power supply solution on using LEDs
    multiplexing using a 4017, 10 transistors, and a 555
    using bussed resistor networks, dip sockets and project perf boards along with bar graph displays
    look at mouser # 604 DC20/205RWA
    has 20 ledsin a dip package measuring 50.7mm long 75mw 9000-31000mcd
    ALL dip sockets for switches, ic's, leds. and resistors.
    couldn't get any easier
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    Default to save you time

    ALL in dip packages except the 2n2222 transistors.
    then itsall point to point wiring = simple, easy
    here is a parts list if interested mouser.com
    hope this helps as the clock is ticking


    512-LM555CN .31 clock
    595-CD4017BEE4 .43 multiplex ic
    604-DC20/20SRWA $4.29 x 5 led display 9.85" tall
    652-4114R-2LF-220 .58 x 10 14 dip resistor networks
    653-A6T-0104 $1.60 x 10 dip switches
    517-4808-3004-CP .16 8 pin socket
    571-1-390261-4 .20 16 pin socket
    517-4820-3000-CP .22 x 10 20 pin sockets
    571-1-390262-5 .39 x 5 40 pin sockets
    863-P2N2222AG .20 x 10 2n2222 transistors

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    Ok I have put together this circuit based on what ericgibbs has posted using a 74HTC164. It only includes the control circuit and the resistors for the LEDs. Each of the green pads will go to an LED. I have a couple of questions...

    1) Have I done this right?!
    2) What do I do with all the clock inputs?
    3) Will this circuit definitely do what I need ie - count up by one everytime the button is pressed whilst keeping all the previous LEDs illuminated?
    4) What power supply will I need if I am using 1.85V red LEDs with a 20mA operating current?

    If I can't get this circuit sorted by the end of today I think I'm going to have to go down the dip switch route...

    Thanks

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    Sorry forgot to add the attachment....
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    Quote Originally Posted by leo.j.arnold View Post
    Ok I have put together this circuit based on what ericgibbs has posted using a 74HTC164. It only includes the control circuit and the resistors for the LEDs. Each of the green pads will go to an LED. I have a couple of questions...

    1) Have I done this right?!
    2) What do I do with all the clock inputs?
    3) Will this circuit definitely do what I need ie - count up by one everytime the button is pressed whilst keeping all the previous LEDs illuminated?
    4) What power supply will I need if I am using 1.85V red LEDs with a 20mA operating current?

    If I can't get this circuit sorted by the end of today I think I'm going to have to go down the dip switch route...

    Thanks

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    At 20mA per led for 8 led's the specified current rating and dissipation of the 74HCT 164 will be exceeded.
    A suitable shift register would be TPIC6595.

    Compared to the bit switch solution the S/R will be expensive and lack memory retention at power off.
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    It also can't decrement if you press the button too many times.
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    Default Thats exactly what I was thinking

    too many presses and the "SB1 rocket" would act like Berni Madoff
    If the op decides to go with the 74164, would my proposal of multiplexing using a 4017 be an option to limit the LED current?
    Sometimes the trees get in the way of seeing the forest
    I vote for the dip switches. Easy, cheap and the entire circuit could be crafted in 2 hours using all dip sockets.
    Bargraph displays, dip switches, resistor arrays.
    Heck the resistor arrays alone would save 90 solder connections. 200 (2 per resistor vers 11 per array)unless you go with 16 pin arrays (14 resistors per dip package)
    The displays if not long enought, just double the number of displays.
    each 20 led display is 50.7mm long x 5 =9.84 inches. If you want a 21inch display (2 LEDs per quota amount no big deal. The displays are end stackable.
    Just need to speed up the multiplexing clock.
    the op has 10 days left!!

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    A 5V @ 1.2A switchmode wall supply is common and cheap. 100 LEDs at 10mA each is only 1A.
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    Default But how bright?

    at 10 ma??
    I like bright LEDs
    lets try 50ma ---lol

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