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    Default Could someone explain a few things for me about a ultrasonic receiver?

    Hi, for my ultrasonic sensor project i want to go with a design based on the link shown, but before I do I want to understand a few things


    http://www.robot-electronics.co.uk/files/srf1.pdf

    I was wondering - in the receiver -what design decisions are made with C6, C9 and R7 (in terms of values and why they are there!).

    Im pretty sure i know C9, its just to remove residual DC

    The way to calculate C9 i assume would be just to say....

    1 / (2π f RIN)
    with f being 40000 (40khz ultrasound) and Rin being 10000ohms (as I assumed the input impedance of the transducer to be 10000ohms)

    I do not know what C6 and R7 do, and how effect the circuit and how there values are chosen?

    Thanks for any help, im really stuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callo1234 View Post
    Hi, for my ultrasonic sensor project i want to go with a design based on the link shown, but before I do I want to understand a few things


    http://www.robot-electronics.co.uk/files/srf1.pdf

    I was wondering - in the receiver -what design decisions are made with C6, C9 and R7 (in terms of values and why they are there!).

    Im pretty sure i know C9, its just to remove residual DC
    It's to pass AC, and to block any potential DC.


    The way to calculate C9 i assume would be just to say....

    1 / (2π f RIN)
    with f being 40000 (40khz ultrasound) and Rin being 10000ohms (as I assumed the input impedance of the transducer to be 10000ohms)
    It's not calculated at all, just a random value, massively higher than it needs to be - it's only got to pass 40KHz.

    The impedance of the sensor is a lot higher than that, and it's a poor design because it's presenting far too low an impedance to the sensor (only 2K2).


    I do not know what C6 and R7 do, and how effect the circuit and how there values are chosen?
    It's a timing circuit, to slow down the comparator been enabled after the pulse has been sent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin View Post
    It's to pass AC, and to block any potential DC.



    It's not calculated at all, just a random value, massively higher than it needs to be - it's only got to pass 40KHz.

    The impedance of the sensor is a lot higher than that, and it's a poor design because it's presenting far too low an impedance to the sensor (only 2K2).



    It's a timing circuit, to slow down the comparator been enabled after the pulse has been sent.
    Thanks a lot, yeh I was told by somone else to stick another 10000ohms on the impedance in - its like they havent taken into acount the transducer input impedance - eventhough that schematic is from a on sale sensor!

    Didnt have a clue about the timing circuit! Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callo1234 View Post
    Thanks a lot, yeh I was told by somone else to stick another 1000ohms on the impedance in - its like they havent taken into acount the transducer input impedance - eventhough that schematic is from a on sale sensor!
    It's not a question of an extra 1000 ohms, you really need in the 100's of thousands, or the millions. That's why you would use non-inverting mode rather than inverting mode.
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    Oh ok, will check that out...

    Also for the time constant in a parallel RC circuit (in the circuit c6 and R7) is the same as if it were a series RC

    sooo T=RC

    And therefore the time delay is just C6 x R7 (the time delay of the comparator after the pulse is sent)?
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