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Old 19th May 2004, 07:08 PM   (permalink)
Default How to interface a DTMF dialer with a Telephone line

Hi all
I'm an Electronics Student.

I have the same question as "vik1501" and i don't understand the schemtaic given there
ref : http://www.electro-tech-online.com/viewtopic.php?t=8534

I have a dtmf dialer and have successfully generated dtmf tones using a microprocessor. Plz suggest me a way to interface it to the Telephone line.

Can i get "that" schematic in some easily recognizable form.? :?:

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Old 20th May 2004, 02:03 AM   (permalink)
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You have to put a DC load on the line to get it "off hook". You will have to determine what that is, I don't remember. This schematic should do the job.
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Old 4th June 2004, 12:31 PM   (permalink)
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Hi russlk
I couldn't get proper output when i implemented the schematic. Whats wrong..? I think the phone line loads the dtmf dialer - is that possible ? or am i wrong. Any other suggestions for the circuit?
Thanks
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Old 4th June 2004, 11:04 PM   (permalink)
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What value of RLOAD did you use? It should be just enuf to bring the line off hook.
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Old 5th June 2004, 05:44 AM   (permalink)
Default any suggestion to interface with telephone

hi russlk,
I used 330 ohm resistor to bring the line off hook.I think this is enough.I also checked this by dialing to our telephone number.I unable to know where is problem.
I request you give me any more suggestion..........
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Old 6th June 2004, 01:59 AM   (permalink)
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330 ohms is too low. Try 39K and if that does not work, use a lower value, for instance: 10K.
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Old 6th June 2004, 06:07 AM   (permalink)
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The load resistor must be under 1000ohm (Hungary).
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Old 6th June 2004, 09:02 AM   (permalink)
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I'm from India..! 8)
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Old 6th June 2004, 11:41 AM   (permalink)
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Heres one i used for the UK. It worked fine.

The "IN" is where you put your signal (audio). I used a TBA820M el-cheepo audio amp just before this input with a 1uF coupling capacitor in series with the signal to block DC hitting the coil.

You need a signal of about 700mV pk-pk maximum.


The Coil is a 600:600R line transformer.


The circuit is NOT approved for use in the UK.
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Old 6th June 2004, 04:42 PM   (permalink)
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Old 7th June 2004, 01:22 PM   (permalink)
Default That one's too complicated...! But thanx anyway.

Thank you Sebi for the diagram. :P
But my problem is that i'm using an RPS (5 volt) for Vcc supply to other components and ICs of my circuit and i have to use the same reference point for measuring voltages at any node of the circuit. :shock: But i cannot ( i suppose and i'm told not to ) connect any of the two conductors of the Tel. Line to the reference terminal of the RPS. :cry: So my output is not properly referenced..!
The circuit given by the above link uses the voltage in the TEL line in some form to power up the IC 91214 (i.e. does not use an external power supply). This might again create a new problem wherein different stages in the circuit being referenced to different voltages..! (i'm not sure)
One more problem is with the R-Load. I tried to use larger resistances as Russlk had suggested (like 1K or 2.2 K) but they get really heated up...as the off-hook voltage doesn't come down very much.. It stays up there at 32 volt ( on hook voltage 38 volt approx ). So i'm back to using 330 ohm resistor as S'raj has done.
So please help me in this regard also .. :roll:
Thanx a lot for showing so much interest.
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Old 8th June 2004, 08:11 AM   (permalink)
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What is the general range of amplitude trim resistor?
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Old 8th June 2004, 01:13 PM   (permalink)
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The range of amplitude trim resistor i used is 2 to 10 Kohms. I found it didn't affect my output much..!! :? Wonder what for it is connected.. :?: :?: i'm ignorant..if anybody knows pls reply..
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Old 8th June 2004, 01:19 PM   (permalink)
Default Found one way out..!

Hi every1
I found a way out of the Rload crisis. I have connected a 2H inductor in series with the 330 ohm R-load and the Relay, so that the DTMF output is not loaded by the Relay "part" of the circuit. And the good news it that the signal is available in a slightly distorted and attenuated form when connected to the Tel. line but the sad news is that waveform is not recognized as a valid DTMF tone .... :cry: :cry: I donno why
What 2 do.. :?:
Any ideas :idea: are welcome
Thank you all
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