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    Default understanding the logic behind a 74ls90

    My problem is related to these components. I'm trying to understand how I can set my own sequence of numbers with a 74ls90(decade counter) and 74ls47(BCD to seven segment decoder). I've manged to understand to understand to figure out how to reset a count if the numbers are consecutive(0.1.2.3..0..etc..), but I'm having trouble trying to set 0,3,4,7,0 or 0,2,4,6,0.

    I'm been playing with it for sometime and tried the net but couldnt find anything specific. If somebody knows and if they could explain it to me, that would be great.

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    Hi all,
    I found a good schematic for a four decade counter using 4026 IC's with a switch debouncing circuit as well. It does not use the same IC's as in this discussion but you can add as many seven segment displays as you want.
    The 4026 IC only drives common cathode seven segment displays and the nice part here is that only one IC per display necessary.
    If you are interested the project is at :

    http://braincambre500.freeservers.co...%20counter.htm

    Barry.

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    Default Re: understanding the logic behind a 74ls90

    Quote Originally Posted by tresca
    My problem is related to these components. I'm trying to understand how I can set my own sequence of numbers with a 74ls90(decade counter) and 74ls47(BCD to seven segment decoder). I've manged to understand to understand to figure out how to reset a count if the numbers are consecutive(0.1.2.3..0..etc..), but I'm having trouble trying to set 0,3,4,7,0 or 0,2,4,6,0.

    I'm been playing with it for sometime and tried the net but couldnt find anything specific. If somebody knows and if they could explain it to me, that would be great.

    Thanks
    The only way I can see to do this is to configure the counter as a Modulo 4 and then design gating to give you 0, 3, 4, 7 rather than 0, 1, 2, 3. In other words, the counter is actually counting 0, 1, 2, 3, but the gating converts these to 0, 3, 4, 7 which then drives the binary to 7 segment IC.

    To obtain 0, 2, 4, 6 you would use a diffiernt gating design.

    Len

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    Greeting to all.

    I built that circuit in electronics worbench and it acts like crazy.the problem is not the circuit , for some reason the 7 segment display that should turn ligths on at high input ( as explained in help option :roll: )is inverted so it ligths in low level.

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    PLease I wanna make the 74ls90 work as a Decade 6 Counter(0-5) if you got any idea about this please inform me.
    Digimaniac,
    If you tie pin 8 to pin 2 and pin 9 to pin3 of the 74LS90 it will reset to zero on the 6th count. Pins 2 and 3 are a 2 input nand gate. On the 6th count Qb and Qc are both high. The internal NAND gate on pins 2 and 3 will
    go to 0 and reset the counter.

    On a simiar subject pins 6 and 7 are a NAND gate that will reset the counter to 9
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    Default Yet another link on the 74ls90

    Just wanted to add a note here in case anybody else come across the need in playing around with 74LS90 circuits:

    http://travel.howstuffworks.com/digital-clock5.htm

    Gives examples of setting up divide-by-10 counters and divide-by-6 counters to create a digital clock.

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    Default multisim project

    Okay i'm kind of new at this and I'm using multisim7. For my project I need some sort of timing device. After 5 sec, I need ouputs to change. Then after 23 sec, I need outputs to change again. Then after 25 seconds I need those outputs to change once more. I imagine I'll use a counter, but I'm really not sure how I go about making a truth table or hooking up multiple counters. I think counters like the 74192 or 7490 or 74161 could be used?? Can anyone help me out??? I'm kind of....clueless and I'd appreciate any help. Oh and I can only usre 74xxx series ICs.

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Counter using 74LS90 and 74LS47

    Hi,
    I also build this counter and its works well, but I have one problem that when I switch on the power of counter its displays 8 rather than 0. Please help me in this metter if you know anything about it.
    Project diagram is received by http://www.aaroncake.net/circuits/counter.htm

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    The circuit needs 2 additions.

    1. Switch on reset so it starts at 0

    2. a 100 nF bypass capacitor across the counter supply pins. Strange results can occur otherwise

    Len

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    74ls47 have open collector outputs, chances are your simulation software includes this in its models as well. This means you should tie them high using 1K pull up resistors and then use inverters between the 7447 output to your 7 seg display. Try it.

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    Default Counter doesn't work.

    Hey, I am building this counter right now and i can't get it running. Is there a switch required? And what do you with Pin 14 where it says "count in". Please if anyone can help me it would be great!

    BTW: there is not a youtube vid on building this, is there? Maybe someone could make one since everyone has trouble with this circuit

    Thanks in advance!

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    for me works fine i just needed to add NOT gate at the end

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    Default Digital Cloooooooooock

    neeeeeeeeed digital clock complete circuit diagram

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brook View Post
    for me works fine i just needed to add NOT gate at the end

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    The reason you had to use an inverter chip is because of a mis-match with your driver and display.

    That is also the reason many people have trouble with a simple counter.

    If your 7- segment display is a common cathode type, you must use a 7448 driver.

    If your 7- segment display is a common anode type, you must use a 7447 driver.


    Other points to watch:
    Liberally use capacitors between the + and - rails to avoid spikes and glitches.
    Use a regulated 5 volt power supply or fresh batteries totaling 4.5 to 5 volts with TTL chips (74xx series)
    Make sure the input to pin 14 of the 7490 is clean. Debouncing is mandatory if using a switch for single pulse.
    If you want multiple digits, you must use a 7447(8) for each display.
    Place 220R resistors between driver and each segment.

    I realize this thread dates back some 5 years, but there are always new people joining our group, hence the above information.
    Last edited by AllVol; 14th March 2009 at 12:33 PM.
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    can i have a schematic diagram of 74LS192 and 74LS47 with up/down counter???

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