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Old 21st August 2008, 04:35 AM   #1
Question Resistors & 48V DC Question

Hello everyone, I'm new to the forum!

I am planning a project with LED lighting with DMX. The controller I'm wishing to use has an output of 48 volts DC and 4 amps on each channel.

Now, I only have knowledge in building LED circuits for 12V DC.

On some of the channels, I will want to connect a single LED and of course I'll need a resistor. However, at 48V, I'm wondering if I need a special resistor that can handle such voltage? I used an LED resistor calculator and it said I would need a resistor that could handle 22 Watts... thats a little too much. Those things are too big for my project.

Any help is appreciated! Thanks!
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Old 21st August 2008, 05:04 AM   #2
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Well, if you want to run more than one LED per output, then put the LEDs in series to save power. The other option to look at is running the "controller" at a lower voltage. Post a link to the "controller" so we can see if this is viable.
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Old 21st August 2008, 05:29 AM   #3
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Series the LED's is your best option. 20 red LED's yields 34 Volts, and R to drop down from 48V.
15 white LED's ± 45Volts and R to drop down excess and set LED current at about 15 to 20 mA.

If single LED on 48 Volts say 20 mA will yield a resistor of 2400R and 1 Watt.

I would go for 2700R or use 2 in series of 1500R to split the heat over the resistors.

Then multiply it out by the amount of LED's required.
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Old 21st August 2008, 06:33 AM   #4
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Thanks!

The controller in question is:
http://www.celestialaudio.com/ca_dmx_32_nfet/index.html

If something goes wrong, at least resistors don't blow up violently!
Mind you, LED's can...

Its just the heat that concerns me... is it bad if a resistor is still functioning but almost too hot to touch?

I still get that with resistors on 12v.
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Old 21st August 2008, 12:11 PM   #5
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I take it that this is a high power LED?

Build a switching regulator.

I'll post the circuit (which is very simple) if you're interested.
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Old 21st August 2008, 02:59 PM   #6
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. . .if a resistor is still functioning but almost too hot to touch?
An X watt resistor dissipating X watts is normally too hot to touch.
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Old 21st August 2008, 07:36 PM   #7
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I still don't understand why you're using 48VDC; is this going to be powered from a UPS or wind/solar powered installation?
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Old 21st August 2008, 07:57 PM   #8
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In the link it says "up to 48v" which leads me to believe it'll go lower.
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Old 21st August 2008, 08:44 PM   #9
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I still don't understand why you're using 48VDC; is this going to be powered from a UPS or wind/solar powered installation?
I agree. It sounds like the outputs are programmable/adjustable, depending on the number of LEDs in use. See if you can step it down.
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Old 22nd August 2008, 02:21 AM   #10
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I have been in contact with them about the board. I just sent an e-mail asking if the voltage is adjustable. They do have another board that runs at 12V but each channel can only support 20MA.

I've decided that I will have to connect LED's in a series. Save money and I wont have to get heavy duty resistors :P.

It's just the very high power LED's (1-3 watt) that I will have problems with. I know there are LED drivers for these type of LED's but the only ones I have found can only handle an input up to 32V.

This project is for a computer case modification. The controller board will either be connected to the computer power supply or wall outlet... I'll probably have to make an external box for all the hardware.
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Old 22nd August 2008, 02:49 AM   #11
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Thanks!
The controller in question is:
http://www.celestialaudio.com/ca_dmx_32_nfet/index.html
Just set the LED power supply to the level you need. The lower the better. ie: If the longest, and the the highest voltage drop LED string, needs 8V, then make the LED supply 12V and burn the remaining 4V in a resistor. No need to supply it with 48V at all. All they mean is that is good UP to 48V if you needed it.
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Old 22nd August 2008, 07:37 AM   #12
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Oh.. i didn't seem to clue into that! Well that saves me from all the trouble then.
Thanks for the help everyone.
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