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| the bulb blowing off by itself cannot open a breaker . however ionization of air because it arched and sustained the short will do that breakers are not fast the short must be there for a long time to open it because of heat caused by the current. | |
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| Rather dangerous proposition-- wrench melts off-- these situations we heard while working in telecom, as jokes around 2500AH 2V lead acid cells.
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| Also, I doubt the wrench itself actually melts, it's more likely that the battery terminals, which are made of lead, will melt.
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| I saw wrenches melting across high power battery terminals. -- wrench across battery terminals without an fuse or circuit breaker.
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| On a relatively frequent basis I will have a filament failure accompanied by circuit breaker tripping.
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| It just happend to me. (light bulb vs circuit breaker) Re: arcs at 120 VAC; yes, the blue great flash seen when the filament opens, or is open and power is applied is an arc. If you could measure the lumens at that exact point you could determin the current and calculate the resistance. I still can understand after looking at trip current curves of 15 amp breakers how it can trip. | |
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It takes a high voltage and a gap to make an arc.
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| You're slipping AG - check the post date, it's months old and already been answered. | |
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| Lamps are supposed to have fuse wire inside to prevent the low resistance arc from tripping breakers. Maybe the I^2 T curve, the trip curve, of the fuse wire was a few amps to the right of the I^2 T curve for your breaker. Arcs have incrementally negative resistance; at some point in the V I curve an increasing voltage causes a decreasing current, but on the whole the V I curve slopes upward and to the right with increasing V or increasing I. Last edited by Willbe; 25th August 2008 at 11:48 PM. | |
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| There are some extremely cheap light bulbs sold. They don't have safety fuses.
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| No hostile weather at time. This is the 3rd time in ten years that it has happend, same fixture subject to vibrations from adjacent stairs. Re: current, the filament does show signs of physical distortion that would indicate high current considering the properties of tungsten. It doesn't make sence but I'm sure the flash seen is from an arc. And Nigel, unless there was a third page in the original discusion, It has not been answered. (If someone wants to talk lead acid stationary batteries, I'm the guy. Charging, step loads, short circuit currents, heat, testing, longevity, etc.) | |
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| Halogen bulbs certainly don't have a safety fuse - they're always tripping the breakers.
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