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Old 2nd May 2008, 06:45 PM   (permalink)
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one needs to learn how to walk before they can run.
Yes PICS will save alot of time and money IF one knows how to program AND has a pic programmer.
I myself would love to learn PIC programming BUT being on a fixed income and too busy to start from scratch and learn something new. Besides to use a pic one still needs to interface with the outside world using transistors or other old school hardware.
I have enough problems trying to get a stereo graphic equalizer with 2-10x10 leds displays designed and design the double sided boards to build the monster on.add a pocket TILT unit w/ 2- 10 led displays )a boy scout I have in my troop is building.I am scout master, Weblos den leader, electronics merit badge counselor etc))
the ammo counter that is in another post is one example.
the person has several errors in his/ her circuit involving basic digital logic and the use of transistors. YES a pic would work BUT he/ she still needs to have and learn pic programming. Its not something one learns overnight.
I don't mean to sound like a grumpy old man, I agree with you on the usage of a pic BUT??
After looking through Blueroomelectronics' links, this is exactly what I was thinking. I know a wee bit of VB C++, but I wouldn't have a clue where to begin on PIC programming.

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I think you mean increase the accuracy of the 556. I would change the values of your timing capacitors to a lower value and increase the timing value resistors. I have found by using good film capacitors and good quality trim pots the timing is reliable and repeatable. Sometimes high value of electrolytic capacitors have some leakage current the affects overall performance. Changing the 100uf capactor to a film may be a problem, but you might be able to use a 1uf and not have the timing resistor to large.
Another thing I have found is to put a electrolytic capacitor about 47uf very close to the 556 package. Connect this capacitor between Vcc and ground.
Thanks, I'll give that I try. I could get the pulses narrowed down to 3 if I had a high-precision pot instead of the crap one I'm using now. I'll stick another cap near the 556, hopefully that will clean it up a bit.



Thanks for the links, Blueroomelectronics. They were quite informative, but a good bit over my head. I may switch to a PIC design later on but for now I'll just stick with my logic circuit.

Anyhow, could someone explain the transistor biasing to fix the LED problem? I just updated the circuit to include the switch debouncing, but the LEDs are still causing problems.
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Old 2nd May 2008, 10:37 PM   (permalink)
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here is a simulation pic for the transistor resistors.
I think this will work, no guarantees
As I stated before without a resistor in series with the leds your drawing upwards of 2 amps!!
I put a resistor on the base and in series with the leds
I have most of the circuit drawn out in expresspcb.
need to add the gates in lower left corner.
subed a 74hc14 for the 74hc04's. then inserted a switch de-bounce circuit
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Old 4th May 2008, 11:26 AM   (permalink)
Default Have revised schematic

I have your circuit drawen out using expresspcb (can download off web for free)
the schematic has couple changes such as pull up resistors, 74hc14 ics.
different led read out.
was thinking about a VCO Oscillator ic instead of the 555 for better accuracy?
If you want the file then email me and I will sent .
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