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Old 15th April 2008, 06:32 PM   (permalink)
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Hi all....
As some know i made this little IR door Opener and well.. i have the schematic made but my board skills arent good. Im trying to make it into a 1 sided board which seems impossible ... i just need some help making the board.. It can be 1 or 2 sided but im not such a neat person so can someone please help me.. Below is the schematic.. in EAGLE...

EDIT: Updated Schematic
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Old 15th April 2008, 06:50 PM   (permalink)
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Hi all....
As some know i made this little IR door Opener and well.. i have the schematic made but my board skills arent good. Im trying to make it into a 1 sided board which seems impossible ... i just need some help making the board.. It can be 1 or 2 sided but im not such a neat person so can someone please help me.. Below is the schematic.. in EAGLE...
hi atomsoft,
Like to help, dont use Eagle, tried express.sch, not compatable.

Any chance of a jpg or gif being posted.

BTW, if you didnt know already, expresspcb is a freebie download, schematic and pcb.

Is Eagle a freebie.??

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Old 15th April 2008, 06:53 PM   (permalink)
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no but more people use eagle i think. (at least most talked about)

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Old 15th April 2008, 07:01 PM   (permalink)
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sorry redid R7 just noticed it:




This is the FINAL

EDIT : R7 can be 330ohm normal resistor
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Old 15th April 2008, 07:04 PM   (permalink)
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I can lay this out for you if you would like.

Do you want it very compact or a little easier to solder.

Any parts that you must have in a given location or what looks good to me.
ESP the TSOP sensor.
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Old 15th April 2008, 07:10 PM   (permalink)
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I can lay this out for you if you would like.

Do you want it very compact or a little easier to solder.

Any parts that you must have in a given location or what looks good to me.
ESP the TSOP sensor.
hi 3v0,
I will in that case step down.

I was going to ask the pin layout details of the relay, switches and orientation of the TSOP.

Downloaded the freeware edition of Eagle, just out of interest.

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Old 15th April 2008, 07:19 PM   (permalink)
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hi 3v0,
I will in that case step down.

I was going to ask the pin layout details of the relay, switches and orientation of the TSOP.

Downloaded the freeware edition of Eagle, just out of interest.

Regards
Skip the production code and download the beta at the http://www.cadsoft.de/
The link in on the left top side of the page.

If you are not used to it the production version is apt to make you unhappy. The beta less so. A bit weird to use but a very powerful program.
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Old 15th April 2008, 07:21 PM   (permalink)
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umm anyway really 3v0 .. as for the sensor ... any way you are more experienced than me so i trust your judgment.
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Old 15th April 2008, 07:28 PM   (permalink)
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umm anyway really 3v0 .. as for the sensor ... any way you are more experienced than me so i trust your judgment.
OK I will get on it. Are you going to be around for a few hours.
I have a tutor session from 2:30 till about 4. Other then that I am free.

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Old 15th April 2008, 08:32 PM   (permalink)
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I have done an initial parts arrangement on the board. This is to show the relationship and not spacing. Check to see if the caps are were you want them to be esp C2 and C3. Note that VPP will be on the left side of the ICSP connector JP2. This will mean a twist in the ICSP cable but it make the board easier to route. Can change it if you like. I still have to check the TSOP to see if it is facing out so I could have it backward.

You had a common problem with D1. You had a net between both pins which shorted it and caused the net going to RA2 to be part of VCC.

I am easily confused. How is the board powered. I do not see a connector or solder pads for VCC. Since there is no regulator associated with VCC you have the regulation off board or are using batteries.

All in all the schecmatics are quit good for a first try at Eagle.

I will route it after you give me the changes and or an OK.
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Old 15th April 2008, 09:39 PM   (permalink)
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ok sorry i was away for a bit but im back...
the vcc for the chip and other parts comes from the power input from the LM317 which comes from 9-15V from adapter plug...

Not sure if that makes sense

It is supposed to turn on when RA2 is pulled low... I know its wierd but it works on breadboard .. Ill post a link to the original post if needed
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Old 16th April 2008, 12:04 AM   (permalink)
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No problem. You are correct. I was looking at it wrong.

I placed the power jack and the IR sensor on the same edge of the board so you can place in most any size box.

I will route it now.
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Old 16th April 2008, 01:39 AM   (permalink)
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No problem. You are correct. I was looking at it wrong.

I placed the power jack and the IR sensor on the same edge of the board so you can place in most any size box.

I will route it now.
Hi 3v0,

lets do a private competition for the smallest single sided PCB.
(Single sided is possible!)

Question to atomsoft: Do you really want the IR-sensor mounted horizontally?

I suggest to mount it vertically opposite the power jack.

Hans
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Old 16th April 2008, 01:46 AM   (permalink)
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Hey Boncuk that sounds cool (the competition)... As long as a signal can make it to the sensor its all good. Place it however you want
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Old 16th April 2008, 02:37 AM   (permalink)
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Routed board 3x2.25
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