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Old 7th April 2008, 07:53 PM   (permalink)
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Hi, I'm looking to boost a signal from ~1V to 5V to trigger a function generator, which will then generate a pulse in burst mode. It's currently not triggering at all because of the low voltage of my input signal, which is a saw tooth waveform, 1V peak to peak, that repeats ~100Hz. Can someone recommend a general purpose op amp for this purpose?

I plan to build something similar from this site:
http://webpages.ursinus.edu/lriley/r...its/node5.html

Thanks,
Michael
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Old 7th April 2008, 11:57 PM   (permalink)
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Hi, I'm looking to boost a signal from ~1V to 5V to trigger a function generator, which will then generate a pulse in burst mode. It's currently not triggering at all because of the low voltage of my input signal, which is a saw tooth waveform, 1V peak to peak, that repeats ~100Hz. Can someone recommend a general purpose op amp for this purpose?

I plan to build something similar from this site:
http://webpages.ursinus.edu/lriley/r...its/node5.html

Thanks,
Michael
Hi Michael,

What supply voltage do you have available?

Any general-purpose op-amp should easily be able to handle your job. I've got a whole whack of ancient LM358s and I'd be tempted to use one of those if I was building this thing, just to try to use one up. And it'd only use half of it. Or maybe an old 741 or something. Normally I don't think anybody would recommend these old beasts for anything anymore but they should have no problem with your job. If you want better op-amps for about the same price you could try a TL071 or TL081.


Good luck,

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Old 8th April 2008, 02:19 AM   (permalink)
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I am thinking about powering it from a 12V AC adapter. I think all of these op amps require a +/-ve voltage supply. Is there a model, or do you know any circuit setup that I can use that needs only one power supply for my application?

Thank you for the suggestions. You can tell I'm not too familiar with circuits. I guess I kind of want something that just works.

Michael
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Old 8th April 2008, 02:50 AM   (permalink)
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Any opamp will operate from a single polarity supply if you bias its inputs correctly.
A few opamps have an input and an output that still work at the negative supply voltage which is 0V if there is only one supply.
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Old 8th April 2008, 04:36 AM   (permalink)
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Hi Michael,

Check the sticky message Dual or single supplies for opamps in General Electronics Chat. Audioguru made a diagram showing how to connect op-amps for either dual or single supplies.

If you have any questions ask away. It's also been covered a few times already so searching the forums should turn up some existing explanations.


Good luck,

Torben
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Old 8th April 2008, 06:46 AM   (permalink)
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Thanks, I will search more carefully next time.

I think with the given single supply circuit, the output voltage from 0V would be 6V? (Correct me if I'm wrong) Since I want the output to vary between 0 and 5V, maybe I do need a -ve supply. Would this chip work?
http://www.electronicsinfoline.com/C...pply/7018.html

It seems like a simple solution.

Thanks,
Michael
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Old 8th April 2008, 08:01 AM   (permalink)
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hi Michael,
Since your function gen dosn't 'see' the 1v saw tooth tigger, a simple single supply opa would do fine.
If you power say a LM358 from +6V, the output will limit at about +0.5V thru +5V anyway.

As Torben suggests, at 100Hz, a LM358 is an inexpensive choice.

A point to measure, is the driving sawtooth referenced to ground.?

That is, does it swing +/- about the 0V line or is it referenced above 0v.?

What form does the FG trigger input expect, eg: fast edge or will it accept a slow sawtooth.?

Is it important on which part of the sawtooth the FG triggers.?

The reason I am asking so many damn questions, you may require a comparator that generates a 'edge or gating pulse' to the FG, rather than an amplified saw tooth.

Hope you follow this..
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Old 18th April 2008, 10:33 PM   (permalink)
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Appreciate all the advices. I got the triggering working with a simple voltage regulator (LM311) after reading more about it. With a POT, there's the added advantage of this setup for setting where during the sawtooth I would like the trigger to happen.

Thanks,
Michael
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Old 19th April 2008, 07:55 AM   (permalink)
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Appreciate all the advices. I got the triggering working with a simple voltage regulator (LM311) after reading more about it. With a POT, there's the added advantage of this setup for setting where during the sawtooth I would like the trigger to happen.

Thanks,
Michael
hi,
For future reference a LM311 is a Comparator, not a Voltage regulator.
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