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Old 10th December 2007, 01:35 PM   #1
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Hello,
I would really appreciate a simple circuit to allow me to use a red and a green led where I can vary the on time of each colour.
That is, red on for 8 seconds whilst green is off then green on for 12 seconds whilst the red is off. This to continue until I turn it off.
Its to use as an exercise timer for an exercise bike so I can sprint like mad for 8 secs then coast for 12 seconds.(the optimum regime to loose weight and get fit)
My electronics knowledge is fairly low but I can solder up a simple circuit.
Many thanks
Charles
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Old 10th December 2007, 10:27 PM   #2
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I suggest that you use a 555 timer configured for an 8/12 sec duty cycle. Connect the red LED in series with a resistor between Vcc and the 555 output.

Connect the green LED in series with a resistor between Gnd and the 555 output.

There are plenty of circuits for 555 astables in this forum. Do a search for "555".

There are also internet sites that have 555 info. Some links have been posted in this forum in the past.
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Old 11th December 2007, 12:21 AM   #3
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I suggest that you use a 555 timer configured for an 8/12 sec duty cycle. Connect the red LED in series with a resistor between Vcc and the 555 output.

Connect the green LED in series with a resistor between Gnd and the 555 output.

There are plenty of circuits for 555 astables in this forum. Do a search for "555".

There are also internet sites that have 555 info. Some links have been posted in this forum in the past.

Thanks, I thought it would be fairly simple but did not know what to look for.
What does Vcc mean?
And how do I recognise what circuit would be suitable?
As I said, my knowledge is very low
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Old 11th December 2007, 12:39 AM   #4
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Hi Savarin,

Here's a cheap and simple circuit.
Use low current leds.

http://www.alldatasheet.com/datashee...I/CD40106.html

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Old 11th December 2007, 09:48 AM   #5
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Hi Savarin,

Here's a cheap and simple circuit.
Use low current leds.
Thanks but unfortunately my knowledge is too limited to understand what you mean.

I've searched for astable flipflops, timers, on the web and found heaps but have insufficient knowledge to choose what one to use.

I will try astable 555 on here now.
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Old 11th December 2007, 02:01 PM   #6
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Take a look here, this may be helpful for you.
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Old 11th December 2007, 02:13 PM   #7
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Take a look here, this may be helpful for you.
hi Gordz,
I am looking and looking and looking, but I dont see anything helpful!
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Old 11th December 2007, 02:57 PM   #8
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Hi Eric,

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hi Gordz,
I am looking and looking and looking, but I dont see anything helpful!
I think I understand what he means.

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Old 11th December 2007, 03:19 PM   #9
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hi on1aag,

Oh!!, I see it clearly now!.thanks ...

hi Charles,
Look at this circuit.
EDIT:
The 10Hz should of course read 10 Seconds.!
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Old 11th December 2007, 03:35 PM   #10
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hi on1aag,

Oh!!, I see it clearly now!.thanks ...

hi Charles,
Look at this circuit.
Thanks, I've found a tute for the math (not that I get it yet) so a bit of swotting needed there.
I need a 40% - 60% cycle for 8 secs / 12 secs, correct??
to get this I play with the 2 resisters and the cap????
If I can work out the math I should get the values that way????
regards
Charles
who maybe getting in over his head.
and definitely will be when he starts looking at stepper motor drivers for his telescopes
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Old 11th December 2007, 03:44 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by savarin
Thanks, I've found a tute for the math (not that I get it yet) so a bit of swotting needed there.
I need a 40% - 60% cycle for 8 secs / 12 secs, correct??
to get this I play with the 2 resisters and the cap????
If I can work out the math I should get the values that way????
regards
Charles
who maybe getting in over his head.
and definitely will be when he starts looking at stepper motor drivers for his telescopes
Hi Charles,
I misread that as 2 sec 'mad pedalling' and 8 sec 'cruising'.
I see now that its 8 sec and 12 sec cruising!, the logic still applies.
You require a 20 Sec total pulse period.

This 9 inch green monitor on my PC is hard to read in daylight.

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Charles,
To give you an idea of the res/cap values required, a single 1M0 resistor and 20uF cap [ 2*10uF in parallel]
gives a total period of about 20 Secs, with a approx 50% duty cycle.
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Old 13th December 2007, 12:55 AM   #12
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Time to play, what pin is power in? and will 9V be ok?

and is that a dual 555 timer chip? I cant find the number in the jaycar catalogue
Thanks
Charles

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Old 13th December 2007, 02:14 AM   #13
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If you want adjustable duty cycle, here is an alternative. The other circuits can probably be modified for adjustable duty cycle also.
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Old 13th December 2007, 09:12 AM   #14
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If you want adjustable duty cycle, here is an alternative. The other circuits can probably be modified for adjustable duty cycle also.
Thanks guys, I will have a play next week (just two classes to finish) and will report back how I went.
regards
Charles
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Old 13th December 2007, 09:30 AM   #15
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Time to play, what pin is power in? and will 9V be ok?

and is that a dual 555 timer chip? I cant find the number in the jaycar catalogue
Thanks
Charles
hi,
The ic is a CMOS 4093 quad nand with schmitt inputs.
9V will be OK, choose the resistors for the LED's to give about 10mA.

Ron's looks an interesting circuit, using the CMOS 555 timer.
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