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    ELF generator

    Hi I'm thinking of building an device that generates extremely low frequency (ELF) waves. Can anyone assist me in this matter, as I don't know where to begin. Thanx :-)


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    Hi koton666,

    Are you still trying to make this ?
    I made a small circuit with about ten discrete components
    that gave me a fifteen second sine wave.

    What sort of wave do you want?
    Square waves are easy enough.

    John

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    Hi Koton,

    When i started to make this very low frequency oscillator, i
    reckoned that an L.C. arrangement would need an un-reasonably
    large inductor and capacitor, and to get active feedback at
    frequencies that are barely more than a slowly changing D.C.
    level would make normal inductive coupling quite impractical.

    So i opted for a phase shift oscillator, i know them to be
    fairly simple, but until then i had never built one. I looked
    at all the designs i could find on the internet, and they all
    were arranged like this:
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    After i had tried making the resistors very high values, many
    megs actually, and making the capacitors as high as i had, that
    could be used in that circuit, i soon decided that to get higher
    values of capacitance i would have to use condensers, or
    electrolytic capacitors as they are now known.

    The problem here is that electrolytics are uni-directional,
    unlike the ones in all the circuits i could find, which are A.C.
    working.

    So i tried staggering them, with one up, and one down, so as to
    keep the uni directional voltage, and also pass the signal,
    like this:
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    I didnt get that to work, so i tried putting the caps to ground,
    and the resistors going from one to the next, like this:
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    When that didn't work either, i was most perplexed. It took me until
    the next day to realise why it wouldn't work. Quite simply, the
    attenuation is so severe that it needs more gain. I stuck another
    transistor in as a darlington pair and bingo, works a treat.
    Like this:
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    Unfortunately i cant find the notes i made at the time of
    construction, except a few scrawly bits without any values
    written in.
    But i think the caps were 100 mfd, just ordinary ones,
    and i think the resistors were about 30 k-ohms.
    you will have to mess around with the values to get the sort
    of frequency you're looking for.

    Best of luck with it, John

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    Thank you

    Thanks

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    Hi,

    I would be very interested to hear what use such a
    low frequency oscillator might have ?

    John

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    ELF band Elecrtomagnetic Sine wave generator...

    I've been interested in this as well...
    I"ve designed a square-wave EM wave generator controlled by software (communicates with hardware via parallel port)...
    It's intended use is with brainwave entrainment... if the frequency is high enough, the sudden polarity changes may have the same effect on the human brain (essentially) as sine waves, however at lower frequencies (beta/alpha/theta/delta) aren't efficient with square waves...


    The device must be accurate to .01 CPS, and preferrably have a wide range... say up to 1KHz...
    Any advice?

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