My professor screwed my final electronics project! - Electronic Circuits Projects Diagrams Free

kungfusansu · 24th August 2007, 01:33 AM

This is kind of an interesting story... At the end of our electronics engineering bachelor's we are supposed to develop a innovative and challenging project. We proposed one two weeks ago that we were fairly confident in. As it turns out the advisors disagreed. This means that our project is on the cutting room florr and we have to start from scratch. So, instead of breaking the news to us, my project management professor proposed a project on our behalf, without our permission, and had it approved.

Don't get me wrong, in a way this is good news, we have a fall back plan thats already been set up for us. The problem is that the new project isn't our idea and looks to be a project for the manager more than us. We, on the other hand, would like to develop something interesting and challenging for ourselves instead of being handed a project that the professor has already planned the realization of. So, I'm scouring every source for a project that has some roots in our original thought instead of just trying to pass (like most of our class mates).

Any ideas or thoughts are greatly appreciated, and, as with many things, time is of the essence. So, anything you would like to say can be sent directly to me at kung_fu_sansu@hotmail.com.

Thanks very much!

Torben · 24th August 2007, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kungfusansu

Any ideas or thoughts are greatly appreciated, and, as with many things, time is of the essence. So, anything you would like to say can be sent directly to me at kung_fu_sansu@hotmail.com.

What, so no one else can partake of the info?

Anyway, replies to this thread will be sent to the email address in your user profile.

As to the project, I'd say that anybody would need more information to even guess what kind/level of project you're after. Are we talking about a simple audio preamp, or an ultrasound imager with speech interface? Help the board help you--we don't all know what is expected of a bachelor student where you are.

If your instructor really is trying to screw you over for personal gain, maybe try including at least one rare/expensive component that the thing just can't live without, if you have time to find one that fits and can't easily be replaced.

Torben

HarveyH42 · 24th August 2007, 02:21 PM

You might as well just get use to it. You should feel lucky that you have an approved project to work on, and should get busy putting it together. You might waste valuable time on making a new proposal, that might not gain aproval, again...

Welcome to the real world of electronics. It might be many years before you get a job where you actually get to even make a project proposal. Starting out, you will mostly likely be doing the grunt work for the senior engineers. Might even be a while before you get to do design work, or even troubleshoot a prototype.

Shadyman · 24th August 2007, 02:44 PM

I'm just finishing first year of my B.E and I guess I have all that to look forward to. Might I ask, where are you studying?

kungfusansu · 24th August 2007, 04:52 PM

I study at DeVry in Fremont, CA. Now, before everyone starts bashing DeVry, its not that bad of a school. It has a lot of hands on work and good ties with many companies in the Silicon Valley. Also, my program is an accredited bachelor's of science and has the same value as any other BS.

As far as the difficulty level... its hard to say exactly. Many of the projects here are kind of on the simple side, but I'm definitely looking for one on the difficult side. Our idea was a remote control car that transmitted wireless audio and video, had ultrasonic distance sensing to help avoid obstacles, and we were thinking of getting some infrared capabilities. All this information was sent to a handheld receiver module. The module had control over the direction the vehicle moved and the direction the camera faced. Finally, if we had time, we were going to add an arm that could grab small samples or move objects out of the way.

We must use a microcontroller and some sensors and it has to be marketable. Hopefully, that gives a little more insight. Thanks in advance for all the help.

yngndrw · 24th August 2007, 06:54 PM

Your original project has been disapproved for a reason, probably because it was too complex. Remember this has to be marketable, which means minimum costs for maximum profit. Some of the most simple ideas are sometimes the best.

Go for the project you've been given if you want a high mark. It's been given to you for a reason, by someone who has a lot of experiance in the grading system.

**3v0** · 24th August 2007, 08:21 PM

Harvey and yngndrw are right on track.

Go with the approved project and do the best job you can. This project is not about pleasing you.

dknguyen · 24th August 2007, 09:19 PM

Yeah, most of the guys who have already done their design projects built fairly mundane things that would be used by someone else. Either that or they chose something they could get done with as quickly as possible.

ie. the group trying to build a hovercraft gave up and built a line follower instead. I must say the groups that did projects like multi-coloured lighting systems were the cleanest cut and most well done, even if they weren't the most impressive.

waxman · 24th August 2007, 11:17 PM

kungfu....
"Also, my program is an accredited bachelor's of science and has the same value as any other BS."
You may want to read about "accreditation":
http://www.nspe.org/govrel/gr2-4049.asp

technogeek · 25th August 2007, 12:00 AM

The professor just gave you a lesson in real life. Can't learn that in a text book....

Good luck either way

TrevorP · 25th August 2007, 04:19 AM

Yeah from the stories I've heard about real-life as an EE your professor just gave you the best experience you can get. He gave you a project that he probably could do himself, that he will expect to be done quickly and done to his standards. My guess is that's what real-life will be...don't complain basically.

**Nigel Goodwin** · 25th August 2007, 08:40 AM

As I see it there are a number of points here?.

1) Was your original idea much too complicated, and they didn't consider you capable of completing it? - we see a LOT of those sort of questions on here!.

2) Was it too simple, not considered challenging enough, and turned down for that reason?.

3) I thought the idea of these projects was that YOU came up with the idea, and ducumented the entire process - even if you didn't manage to make it work, you could still pass.

Yopu've never mentioned what your original idea was, nor what you've now been given?, perhaps you might like to let us know what they are?.

Super_voip · 25th August 2007, 09:16 AM

look for a book called "pda robotics", it has your entire project in it.

**Nigel Goodwin** · 25th August 2007, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Super_voip

look for a book called "pda robotics", it has your entire project in it.

Considering he's supposed to be doing "develop a innovative and challenging project" - copying a design out of a book hardly meets those requirements?.

Super_voip · 25th August 2007, 09:52 AM

it's how you use the parts in the book, googling for circuits would achieve the same result. If applied in "a innovative and challenging" system s/he has simply expedited the process, the book deals with making the entire vehicle with sensors and controlled by a pda which then trasmits to another pda/pc. Maybe he could work on a wifi camera, the only one I've seen on the web is used in a art sense. the camera is a cantenna rotated by steppers, the signal level interrepted as colour

24th August 2007, 01:33 AM	(permalink)
kungfusansu New Member	My professor screwed my final electronics project! This is kind of an interesting story... At the end of our electronics engineering bachelor's we are supposed to develop a innovative and challenging project. We proposed one two weeks ago that we were fairly confident in. As it turns out the advisors disagreed. This means that our project is on the cutting room florr and we have to start from scratch. So, instead of breaking the news to us, my project management professor proposed a project on our behalf, without our permission, and had it approved. Don't get me wrong, in a way this is good news, we have a fall back plan thats already been set up for us. The problem is that the new project isn't our idea and looks to be a project for the manager more than us. We, on the other hand, would like to develop something interesting and challenging for ourselves instead of being handed a project that the professor has already planned the realization of. So, I'm scouring every source for a project that has some roots in our original thought instead of just trying to pass (like most of our class mates). Any ideas or thoughts are greatly appreciated, and, as with many things, time is of the essence. So, anything you would like to say can be sent directly to me at kung_fu_sansu@hotmail.com. Thanks very much!

24th August 2007, 08:21 PM	(permalink)
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25th August 2007, 08:40 AM	(permalink)
Nigel Goodwin Super Moderator	As I see it there are a number of points here?. 1) Was your original idea much too complicated, and they didn't consider you capable of completing it? - we see a LOT of those sort of questions on here!. 2) Was it too simple, not considered challenging enough, and turned down for that reason?. 3) I thought the idea of these projects was that YOU came up with the idea, and ducumented the entire process - even if you didn't manage to make it work, you could still pass. Yopu've never mentioned what your original idea was, nor what you've now been given?, perhaps you might like to let us know what they are?. __________________ PIC programmer software, and PIC Tutorials at: http://www.winpicprog.co.uk

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24th August 2007, 02:21 PM	(permalink)
HarveyH42 Experienced Member	You might as well just get use to it. You should feel lucky that you have an approved project to work on, and should get busy putting it together. You might waste valuable time on making a new proposal, that might not gain aproval, again... Welcome to the real world of electronics. It might be many years before you get a job where you actually get to even make a project proposal. Starting out, you will mostly likely be doing the grunt work for the senior engineers. Might even be a while before you get to do design work, or even troubleshoot a prototype.

24th August 2007, 02:44 PM	(permalink)
Shadyman New Member	I'm just finishing first year of my B.E and I guess I have all that to look forward to. Might I ask, where are you studying?

24th August 2007, 04:52 PM	(permalink)
kungfusansu New Member	I study at DeVry in Fremont, CA. Now, before everyone starts bashing DeVry, its not that bad of a school. It has a lot of hands on work and good ties with many companies in the Silicon Valley. Also, my program is an accredited bachelor's of science and has the same value as any other BS. As far as the difficulty level... its hard to say exactly. Many of the projects here are kind of on the simple side, but I'm definitely looking for one on the difficult side. Our idea was a remote control car that transmitted wireless audio and video, had ultrasonic distance sensing to help avoid obstacles, and we were thinking of getting some infrared capabilities. All this information was sent to a handheld receiver module. The module had control over the direction the vehicle moved and the direction the camera faced. Finally, if we had time, we were going to add an arm that could grab small samples or move objects out of the way. We must use a microcontroller and some sensors and it has to be marketable. Hopefully, that gives a little more insight. Thanks in advance for all the help.

24th August 2007, 06:54 PM	(permalink)
yngndrw Experienced Member	Your original project has been disapproved for a reason, probably because it was too complex. Remember this has to be marketable, which means minimum costs for maximum profit. Some of the most simple ideas are sometimes the best. Go for the project you've been given if you want a high mark. It's been given to you for a reason, by someone who has a lot of experiance in the grading system.

24th August 2007, 09:19 PM	(permalink)
dknguyen Experienced Member	Yeah, most of the guys who have already done their design projects built fairly mundane things that would be used by someone else. Either that or they chose something they could get done with as quickly as possible. ie. the group trying to build a hovercraft gave up and built a line follower instead. I must say the groups that did projects like multi-coloured lighting systems were the cleanest cut and most well done, even if they weren't the most impressive.

24th August 2007, 11:17 PM	(permalink)
waxman New Member	kungfu.... "Also, my program is an accredited bachelor's of science and has the same value as any other BS." You may want to read about "accreditation": http://www.nspe.org/govrel/gr2-4049.asp

25th August 2007, 12:00 AM	(permalink)
technogeek Experienced Member	The professor just gave you a lesson in real life. Can't learn that in a text book.... Good luck either way

25th August 2007, 04:19 AM	(permalink)
TrevorP Experienced Member	Yeah from the stories I've heard about real-life as an EE your professor just gave you the best experience you can get. He gave you a project that he probably could do himself, that he will expect to be done quickly and done to his standards. My guess is that's what real-life will be...don't complain basically.

25th August 2007, 09:16 AM	(permalink)
Super_voip Experienced Member	look for a book called "pda robotics", it has your entire project in it.

25th August 2007, 09:52 AM	(permalink)
Super_voip Experienced Member	it's how you use the parts in the book, googling for circuits would achieve the same result. If applied in "a innovative and challenging" system s/he has simply expedited the process, the book deals with making the entire vehicle with sensors and controlled by a pda which then trasmits to another pda/pc. Maybe he could work on a wifi camera, the only one I've seen on the web is used in a art sense. the camera is a cantenna rotated by steppers, the signal level interrepted as colour