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Old 19th August 2007, 02:43 PM   (permalink)
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I have made a few posts before regarding the building of a relay control module... Rather than start from scratch I decided I could use a 16 port KVM switch I had in the basement! Perfect!!! Push a button, enable a channel, push another button, diconnect and enable another channel... Exactly what I need...

I tied 5v to pin 4 of each of keyboard ports inside thus enabling each channel without actually having to have any channel connected to a computer so now each channel runs stand-alone...

Now all I need to do is pull some juice or a ground from each channel to use to trigger my relays and I'm done...

I wanted to pick the brains of those in the forum before start permanently altering the box beyond repair...

(To give a little background - I'm using a TrendNet 1601D rackmount 16 channel KVM as break-before-make relay control module... Keyboard and Mouse Ports are emulated via an onboard processor in the KVM and the video lines are from what I can tell, simply rerouted.)

Since I'll be pulling from what would be the input of each of the 16 channels of the KVM I can't use the "pin-9" 5v DDC line since I'm pulling from the wrong end. I have used a multimeter and can get about 4.4v from the vsync and hsync pins at 13 and 14 but that's a little low as the lowest coil hi-current relays I can find are a 15A contact at 6v coil so 4.4v won't quite be enough to trigger... 5v will do it... Also I don't know how stable a vsync and hsync line will be under load... Any ideas? Does the monitor put out a 5v signal (or more) as a return that I could then tap on it's way out the KVM to trigger my relay? Or maybe I'm even looking in the wrong spot???

Thanks guys/gals!
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Old 19th August 2007, 02:50 PM   (permalink)
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Just to clarify, I won't be connecting a monitor to the output in order to send a return (if there is even a useable return)... I just figured I could use the pin that would be the return to the VGA card and simply tie a 5v (or even 6v or even better 12v) to the monitor side of the kvm so I can catch it on the way out the other end of the kvm on each channel to trigger the relays that way...
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Old 19th August 2007, 09:57 PM   (permalink)
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Looking on wikipedia real fast (you should try it) it appears the VGA standard allows for 75ohm interconnects at a max of 9.3ma's at 6.5mw's 0-0.7 peak to peak voltages. The voltage is so low you'd have to use a transformer as a primary stage and then rectify it. You won't be able to drive a normal relay with it, but you might be able to pulse the input coil of a latching relay using a capacitor bank, but it would be VERY low duty cycle like switches per minute.
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Old 20th August 2007, 02:35 AM   (permalink)
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If I understand the problem correctly, you could use the low voltage signal you have to drive a transistor, which would then drive the relay.
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Old 20th August 2007, 05:37 AM   (permalink)
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But he wants power from the VGA signal, which you can't get. Amplifying the signal with a transistor will work, IF you have an external power source, you're not going to be able to get more than a minuscule at best amount of power from a VGA 'signal' lines. It would be workable with a transformer, latching relays and a large capacitor buffer, for very low duty cycle infrequent pulses. But that's a LOT of circuit to build to avoid having to run a separate power line or put a battery in.
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