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Old 14th June 2007, 11:26 PM   (permalink)
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Real or fake cigarettes are stupid on or off a stage.
Why do the actors need to show how stupid they are?
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Old 15th June 2007, 02:27 AM   (permalink)
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[quote=in pubs, in clubs, in restaurants, in offices, in public buildings - should be a LOT better!.[/QUOTE]

LOLZ NIGEL YOU RHYMED!!!

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Old 15th June 2007, 03:18 AM   (permalink)
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Only just over two weeks now till it's banned in the UK in all public enclosed spaces

So no smoking at work, in work vehicles, in pubs, in clubs, in restaurants, in offices, in public buildings - should be a LOT better!.
I hope that wasn't sarcasm, Nigel. I hate smokers. And don't tell me that i don't know what i am talking about; my own mother smokes. I cannot stand to be around her, or any other smokers, when they are smoking.

It is an infuriating topic, because the tax money coming from the cigarettes is great for roads and education, but the effects are really infuriating. I have been exposed to this crap for quite some time now; the cancer is just waiting to attack.

We need the clean air; but we also need the tax money

What to do?
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Old 15th June 2007, 09:40 AM   (permalink)
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I hope that wasn't sarcasm, Nigel. I hate smokers. And don't tell me that i don't know what i am talking about; my own mother smokes. I cannot stand to be around her, or any other smokers, when they are smoking.
No sarcasm, it's an absolutely disgusting habit, and a health hazard to everyone else.

I'm so looking forward to the ban.

As for the tax money, much of it is probably spent on damage caused by smoking.
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Old 15th June 2007, 02:50 PM   (permalink)
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I used to work at a large hospital that set aside a small outdoor alcove for smoking employees. In the winter they'd be sitting on a park bench, huddled together under a bed sheet.... doctors and nurses! The place stunk to high heaven... it was annoying when I walked by that doorway. Just think about those poor trees in that alcove, subjected to endless toxins. Oh, wait a minute... that's what trees do best... filter out the toxins we produce while giving off oxygen in trade. Ok carry on you puffers; it's a symbiotic relationship between you and the trees!!
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Old 16th June 2007, 12:15 AM   (permalink)
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I can understand not smoking indoors in public buildings, but I never really understood the ban on outdoor smoking in public places. I mean, sure, it is hazardous to an individual's health, but so is junk food, alcohol, and caffeine. I thought it was just a handful of people's attitude towards smokers, until I met my girlfriend.

She would start wheezing, coughing, and even turning blue, randomly throughout the day. She has asthma, but the doctor's say it is mild and minor irritants such as pollution shouldn't affect her. I was confused, until I realized that she only had asthma attacks when people around her were smoking. She didn't even know it was the smoke doing it to her.

That ruled out any doubt in my mind as to the intentions of anti-smoking people.

Thanks for all the circuits, I will build one tonight and post a video (on youtube) if I get it working.
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Old 16th June 2007, 06:24 AM   (permalink)
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Real or fake cigarettes are stupid on or off a stage.
Why do the actors need to show how stupid they are?
If smokers could be convinced to puff on a hollowed out pen with a couple of LEDs at the end, I would gladly build one for everyone that wanted it.

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Old 16th June 2007, 06:24 PM   (permalink)
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Or maybe a foot up their a^.^ would convince them to STOP SMOKING!!!
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Old 16th June 2007, 06:50 PM   (permalink)
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Only just over two weeks now till it's banned in the UK in all public enclosed spaces

So no smoking at work, in work vehicles, in pubs, in clubs, in restaurants, in offices, in public buildings - should be a LOT better!.
Blew me away when I was flying back to Ontario out of Lutton airport in the summer of '02 - no smoking signs everywhere, but clearly (or smokily?) was not a policy that was being enforced by law. By '02, Ontarians were well use to a public and indoor smoking ban, and the Premier there has even gone so far as to pass legislation to remove tobacco as a crop in Ontario. Ironically, the same Premier is supporting the automakers union by resisting legislation that would force Toyota, Ford, etc plants to only produce vehicles that conform to strict emissions standards. I guess everyone picks their battles?
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Old 16th June 2007, 11:39 PM   (permalink)
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I'd guess the block on emmision standards was an economic decision. If the automakers stand to loose a lot of money, they might figure it cheaper just open a plant elsewhere. They do provide a lot of jobs and business for other companies. We've had a few plants close in the states, pretty much kills the town, and the state takes a big hit. The legislation might have an unreasonable deadline, or the standards aren't realistic. I'd imagine that many of those cars ar for export, easy tax money.
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Old 17th June 2007, 08:17 PM   (permalink)
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If they want a cigarette to smoke on stage just roll your own tobacco free herbal cigarettes; use something tasty and healthy like dried mint or sage leaves.

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I can understand not smoking indoors in public buildings, but I never really understood the ban on outdoor smoking in public places.
It's probably because they litter the place with dog ends.
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Old 19th June 2007, 02:47 AM   (permalink)
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Problem with smoking of any kind on stage is the risk of fire. It's tightly regulated here. Any open flame of ember requires fire marshal approval. Usually requires at least two fire extinguishers standing by, manned by someone with fire training and no other duties.
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Old 20th June 2007, 12:05 AM   (permalink)
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Only just over two weeks now till it's banned in the UK in all public enclosed spaces

So no smoking at work, in work vehicles, in pubs, in clubs, in restaurants, in offices, in public buildings - should be a LOT better!.
When I worked at MTV, one of our IT managers left and went to work for London Tobacco.. Her free DAILY allowance for cigarettes was 400!!! Yes, 400 of the little cancer sticks were hers to puff away on each and every day!

Sorry for dropping off the original thread!
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Old 20th June 2007, 08:49 PM   (permalink)
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When I worked at MTV, one of our IT managers left and went to work for London Tobacco.. Her free DAILY allowance for cigarettes was 400!!! Yes, 400 of the little cancer sticks were hers to puff away on each and every day!

Sorry for dropping off the original thread!
Wonder why the person she replaced quit (or died)? They must like new staff regularly! :s 400 is insane! Maybe they expect her to give out some free samples?

"Hey, little boy, do you want some free samples?"

Filthy habbit! The tobacco companies have money, and they know how to use it.
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