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Faisal_arr · 5th December 2006, 06:35 AM

hi, everybody
I hv vry ltl experiance in electronics but ,,,

well i am looking that can i make a flourcent tube light ( which is normally used in homes) work by a 12v car battry....
I think it is possible but no idea,,,

but same thime I have a feeling ... reallly a foool idea

any suggestions please

akg · 5th December 2006, 11:48 AM

is this you want ?

Hero999 · 5th December 2006, 09:00 PM

That's a pretty crude circuit that will shorten the tube life and pump out RF but it'll work.

This circuit is slightly more complex but doesn't suffer from those problems.
http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/samschem.htm#schlpfi1

Sceadwian · 5th December 2006, 11:55 PM

It's not a fool idea unless you're trying to bling out your car using T12 lamps <G> Why not take a simpler approach, use a 12volt DC to 120V AC inverter and hook that up to a standard florescent lamp ballast? The modified sine wave output to the florescant ballast still won't be very good for it, but it'll be better than a standard homebrew circuit, and if you don't know much about electronics you should NEVER try to build a circuit just casue you think it's novel or interesting. Work your way up from basics before you try a complicated project that has issues that you know nothing about.

Hero999 · 6th December 2006, 08:32 PM

Thare's nothing wrong with that idea but it's probably cheaper and certainly more efficient to use an off the shelf 12V luminare but make sure you get a good quality one, there're lots of cheap and nasty ones around.

**Nigel Goodwin** · 6th December 2006, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hero999

That's a pretty crude circuit that will shorten the tube life and pump out RF but it'll work.

But you've got to admire it's simplicity?.

Hero999 · 7th December 2006, 07:34 PM

Yes, until Ofcom track me down and fine me.

**Nigel Goodwin** · 8th December 2006, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hero999

Yes, until Ofcom track me down and fine me.

What?, you mean Ofcom actually do something?.

Hero999 · 8th December 2006, 01:39 PM

I thought they were supposed to be incharge of regulating communications.

I suppose you could always build yourself a pirate radio transmitter and see how long it takes for you to get gripped.

Mike, K8LH · 8th December 2006, 02:04 PM

"gripped"? Is that UK slang?

**Nigel Goodwin** · 8th December 2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike, K8LH

"gripped"? Is that UK slang?

Not as I've ever heard? - but perhaps I'm too old?

**Nigel Goodwin** · 8th December 2006, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hero999

I thought they were supposed to be incharge of regulating communications.

'Regulating' (supposedly) yes, but 'enforcement', I don't really know?. I've had no recent experience with anything in that line - years ago you used to be able to report interference and the Post Office came out and investigated free. In later years you had to fill a form in and send it off with payment to get it investigated - but I've seen nothing about it for years.

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I suppose you could always build yourself a pirate radio transmitter and see how long it takes for you to get gripped.

I know people who have - and who got caught - one multiple times, but not at all recently.

Hero999 · 8th December 2006, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike, K8LH

"gripped"? Is that UK slang?

Yes, it means getting caught doing something wrong, perhaps it's a local or modern thing, I don't know.

Sceadwian · 9th December 2006, 12:23 AM

It is INCREDIBLY difficult to get a wireless agency to come after you. You have to jam a lot of primary users to even get them to notice, and that's only going to happen if you're putting out a decent amount of power and have a lot of bad harmonics, or are doing it intentionally.

**Nigel Goodwin** · 9th December 2006, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sceadwian

It is INCREDIBLY difficult to get a wireless agency to come after you. You have to jam a lot of primary users to even get them to notice, and that's only going to happen if you're putting out a decent amount of power and have a lot of bad harmonics, or are doing it intentionally.

This post would be of more value if you had your location filled in!, as it is we've no idea what country you might be in - and it is obviously VERY specific to your particular country.

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5th December 2006, 06:35 AM	(permalink)
Faisal_arr	any idea for this hi, everybody I hv vry ltl experiance in electronics but ,,, well i am looking that can i make a flourcent tube light ( which is normally used in homes) work by a 12v car battry.... I think it is possible but no idea,,, but same thime I have a feeling ... reallly a foool idea any suggestions please

5th December 2006, 11:48 AM	(permalink)
akg	is this you want ? __________________ Gods own Country Incredible !ndia www.flickr.com/photos/_akg/ "Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day. Teach that man to fish, and he will eat for a lifetime."

5th December 2006, 09:00 PM	(permalink)
Hero999	That's a pretty crude circuit that will shorten the tube life and pump out RF but it'll work. This circuit is slightly more complex but doesn't suffer from those problems. http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/samschem.htm#schlpfi1 __________________ I also post at the following sites: http://www.stop-microsoft.org http://www.heated-debates.com Screen name: Aloone_Jonez

5th December 2006, 11:55 PM	(permalink)
Sceadwian	It's not a fool idea unless you're trying to bling out your car using T12 lamps <G> Why not take a simpler approach, use a 12volt DC to 120V AC inverter and hook that up to a standard florescent lamp ballast? The modified sine wave output to the florescant ballast still won't be very good for it, but it'll be better than a standard homebrew circuit, and if you don't know much about electronics you should NEVER try to build a circuit just casue you think it's novel or interesting. Work your way up from basics before you try a complicated project that has issues that you know nothing about. __________________ "Because I be what I be. I would tell you what you want to know if I could, mum, but I be a cat, and no cat anywhere ever gave anyone a straight answer, har har."

6th December 2006, 08:32 PM	(permalink)
Hero999	Thare's nothing wrong with that idea but it's probably cheaper and certainly more efficient to use an off the shelf 12V luminare but make sure you get a good quality one, there're lots of cheap and nasty ones around. __________________ I also post at the following sites: http://www.stop-microsoft.org http://www.heated-debates.com Screen name: Aloone_Jonez

7th December 2006, 07:34 PM	(permalink)
Hero999	Yes, until Ofcom track me down and fine me. __________________ I also post at the following sites: http://www.stop-microsoft.org http://www.heated-debates.com Screen name: Aloone_Jonez

8th December 2006, 01:39 PM	(permalink)
Hero999	I thought they were supposed to be incharge of regulating communications. I suppose you could always build yourself a pirate radio transmitter and see how long it takes for you to get gripped. __________________ I also post at the following sites: http://www.stop-microsoft.org http://www.heated-debates.com Screen name: Aloone_Jonez

8th December 2006, 02:04 PM	(permalink)
Mike, K8LH	"gripped"? Is that UK slang?

9th December 2006, 12:23 AM	(permalink)
Sceadwian	It is INCREDIBLY difficult to get a wireless agency to come after you. You have to jam a lot of primary users to even get them to notice, and that's only going to happen if you're putting out a decent amount of power and have a lot of bad harmonics, or are doing it intentionally. __________________ "Because I be what I be. I would tell you what you want to know if I could, mum, but I be a cat, and no cat anywhere ever gave anyone a straight answer, har har."