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Old 11th November 2006, 06:31 PM   (permalink)
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If you don't have a drill bit of the correct size or a special stripboard tool then don't worry. The best way is to gently make two cuts next to each other then remove the bit inbetween with a soldering iron. Sometimes it's best to solder a piece of copper tinned wire to it, leave it to cool then pull it off, it should remove the track.

If you want to save space and money then use the LM78L05 in a T092 package, but as audioguru says it's only a goods idea if you're planning to use a 9V power supply, in which case it's also a good idea to add a 100µF capacitor across the power rails.
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Old 11th November 2006, 06:33 PM   (permalink)
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It looks nice but is twice as long as mine.
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160k and 30k are standard 5% values. The ratio must be close, use 180k for R2 and 33k for R3.
I don't know if FM radio stations in your country use pre-emphasis (treble boost) like in Europe or like in North America. Ask the engineer at a local FM station.
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My coils have enamel insulation and are made with the turns touching. If yours isn't insulated then the turns must not short together, but a space will change the inductance. Maybe it can still be tuned to an FM band frequency.
Yes, I'm using enamel coated wire as well. But the turns are not touching, maybe caused by experience??

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I use a drill-press and sometimes just a drill bit held in my hand. A real Veroboard cutting tool is like a drill bit in a handle.
Do you use drill bit for components or bigger drill bit?

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Old 11th November 2006, 07:16 PM   (permalink)
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My drill bit has a diameter a little more than the width of a copper track on the Veroboard. Here is a pic showing track cuts and a red screw-hole:
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Old 11th November 2006, 08:16 PM   (permalink)
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Buy a proper track cutting tool, they cost very little, and it's SO much easier than using a drill bit - I used a drill bit for years, then I got round to buying the proper tool, I couldn't believe the difference!.
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Old 11th November 2006, 08:25 PM   (permalink)
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I don't know where to buy real Veroboard anymore. I think Vero doesn't make it and the employees set up their own company but its website doesn't say much.
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Old 11th November 2006, 08:33 PM   (permalink)
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Dosen't really matter if it's real veroboard or not?, the spot face cutter still cuts it - and they are easily available. Here's one place http://www.maplin.co.uk/search.aspx?...1m11&worldid=3
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Old 11th November 2006, 09:35 PM   (permalink)
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Maplin's spot face cutter looks like the last real Veroboard one I had, same type and colour. My first one had a wood handle, not plastic.
I don't have the tools anymore and there aren't any Maplin shops anywhere around here. My drill-press can cut two spots per second.
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Old 11th November 2006, 10:25 PM   (permalink)
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Maplin's spot face cutter looks like the last real Veroboard one I had, same type and colour. My first one had a wood handle, not plastic.
I don't have the tools anymore and there aren't any Maplin shops anywhere around here. My drill-press can cut two spots per second.
I whip my spot face cutter out of my pocket and cut tracks anywhere!, a drill-press seems a little less convenient?.

Maplin was only an example, almost any electronics shop stocks them - certainly RS Components do, and they are worldwide.
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Old 11th November 2006, 11:18 PM   (permalink)
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I agree. I used to use a drill bit, but before a project that I knew would need many breaks, I bought the proper handled tool. It is very much better yeah. Mine was from Rapid
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Old 12th November 2006, 01:30 AM   (permalink)
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If you don't have a drill bit of the correct size or a special stripboard tool then don't worry. The best way is to gently make two cuts next to each other then remove the bit inbetween with a soldering iron. Sometimes it's best to solder a piece of copper tinned wire to it, leave it to cool then pull it off, it should remove the track.
How if the track nearby is also pulled out accidentally?
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If you want to save space and money then use the LM78L05 in a T092 package
This package cost much right?
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but as audioguru says it's only a goods idea if you're planning to use a 9V power supply, in which case it's also a good idea to add a 100µF capacitor across the power rails.
There are already one before and one after the voltage regulator, do I still need it?
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My drill bit has a diameter a little more than the width of a copper track on the Veroboard. Here is a pic showing track cuts and a red screw-hole:
Usually we cut the tracks before or after putting in the components?

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Old 12th November 2006, 01:48 AM   (permalink)
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The 100uF supply bypass capacitor is good with a battery, but it might not be enough to stop hum from your power supply.

Most low dropout regulators must have a pretty big output capacitor or they oscillate. The one I used needs 100uF. A 7805 or 78L05 is fine with a smaller output capacitor, a 0.1uF ceramic disc is recommended on its datasheet.

I mark where the tracks need cutting with a marker then cut them before mounting and soldering the parts.
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Old 12th November 2006, 01:56 AM   (permalink)
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The 100uF supply bypass capacitor is good with a battery, but it might not be enough to stop hum from your power supply.
A bigger one is needed for power supply? At the input or at the output?
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A 7805 or 78L05 is fine with a smaller output capacitor, a 0.1uF ceramic disc is recommended on its datasheet.
The recommended is only 0.1uF, is anything affected if I use bigger one?
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I mark where the tracks need cutting with a marker then cut them before mounting and soldering the parts.
I planed to do so but luckily I didn't, the size of the coil and the trimmer cap is bigger then I thought. Now I'm thinking how to cut the tracks with the components on the board

The difference between 78L05 and 78LS05 is only the size right?

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Old 12th November 2006, 02:08 AM   (permalink)
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A bigger one is needed for power supply? At the input or at the output?
audioguru has already said, think about it, on the power suppply obviously means before the regulator.

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The recommended is only 0.1uF, is anything affected if I use bigger one?
No it shouldn't be affected, just don't go too overboard, stick to ceramic capacitors (normally under 1µF) because the electrolytics have poor high frequency charicteristics.

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I planed to do so but luckily I didn't, the size of the coil and the trimmer cap is bigger then I thought. Now I'm thinking how to cut the tracks with the components on the board
That's never botherd me, if a componant is in the way then temporarly unsolder it.

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The difference between 78L05 and 78LS05 is only the size right?
Yes, the LM7805 is only rated to 100mA which makes it cheaper.

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It's output impedance is a bit higher so it's regulation isn't as good as the LM7805 but for small circuits it's more compact and cost effective.
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Old 12th November 2006, 07:45 AM   (permalink)
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Oh! I mixed up the 7805 with the low drop out voltage regulator...

For a low drop out voltage regulator, a 100uF is needed if battery is used; bigger capacitor is needed if power supply is used, right?

For a 7805, just stick on ceramic capacitor, for both the battery and power supply?

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Old 12th November 2006, 09:14 AM   (permalink)
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160k and 30k are standard 5% values. The ratio must be close, use 180k for R2 and 33k for R3.
How about this:
150k for R2 and 28k for R3? This is very close to your original design.

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I don't know if FM radio stations in your country use pre-emphasis (treble boost) like in Europe or like in North America. Ask the engineer at a local FM station.
Is it critical or I can use either 100nF or 150nF?

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