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    hello everybody, again im here asking for help again, i could not find the recomended crystal oscillator for this project (3.579545 MHz). is there any alternative to this ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aljamri
    hello everybody, again im here asking for help again, i could not find the recomended crystal oscillator for this project (3.579545 MHz). is there any alternative to this ?
    Assuming this is for the DTMF chip?, it obviously has to be exact - as everything is derived from the crystal. It should be available from sources that stock the chip, or you may need to have one made.
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    The 3.58Mhz xtal is old but around. It was used for color burst in TV.

    Here is am 8870 schematic, the first gif.

    ftp://members.aol.com/pdrunen/schematic/

    EDIT: gif2 is closer to what you want. Also, that is a crystal, you called it an oscillator, that is why Nigel said you can build one.
    Last edited by mramos1; 1st October 2006 at 03:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mramos1
    The 3.58Mhz xtal is old but around. It was using as for color burst in TV.
    Right, if that's an NTSC colour crystal they are fairly easily available in Europe, even though not really used over here.
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    Could you post a schematic when you are done? I'm sure there are a few muslims that would love this circuit... (sorry, about that )

    Actually, I work irregular hours and it would be great to dial up the home phone and turn on/off stuff. Mostly I'd like to control some of my home security functions remotely. Like arm/disarm the alarm and select which cameras are being recorded.

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    HarvyH42, I put a link three post up to a couple 8870 schematics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarveyH42
    I'm sure there are a few muslims that would love this circuit...
    They don't use remote, they like to blow themselves up and everybody nearby.
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    Will give #2 a try. I scrapped an old color tv a while back, maybe I'll get lucky on the crystal. I was going to us LM567 decoder, but it seems that you need one for each button you want to decode.

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    DTMF uses two frequencies so two LM567 ICs are needed to decode each button, until other buttons share the same frequencies.

    In the '80's, DTMF decoder ICs were rated for "talk-off", which is how many times they wrongly decoded speech as DTMF when a test recording was played. I trhink the LM567 system would fail miserably.
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    I still like the pic version I posted a link for in post # 4 of this thread.

    If the fellow was in the US I would mail him a couple 3.58Mhz, I have them here.

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    I'm trying to connect the mobile earphone wire into the decoder input terminals, and I'll put my mobile on auto answering mode ( after 3 rings) then I'll press the numbers of my mobile to give beeps, is that signal clear and strong enough to be decoded or not? please help me with ckt.tell me wat 2 do futher...........

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    Default DTMF with 8051

    Quote Originally Posted by mramos1 View Post
    Even with the 4 bits from the DTMF decoder, you will need to read them and have a processor deal with them, if you are doing real control apps.
    Also have an interface to the decoder chip.

    Is this is a school project? Maybe just light up 4 LEDs.

    So you are in the 6th grade? Wish my kids here in the US were doing electronics in the 6th grade. I have scopes, just sold my 8051 emulator.
    PICs and Atmel chips and programmers all over..

    They like sports and video games. I will fix the video game part soon though.. Too many hours wasted.
    Can you give me a basic flow of DTMF decoder(MT8870) with 8051 microcontroller??

    How it works??
    and necessary steps for caller id provision..

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    Default DTMF with 8051

    Quote Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin View Post
    Right, if that's an NTSC colour crystal they are fairly easily available in Europe, even though not really used over here.
    can you give me a basic flow of DTMF MT8870 with 8051??

    how it works??

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