Electronic Circuits and Projects Forum

can u tell me what is this virtual broadband

I tried the link but its not free!!!

I think gEDA includes a simulator:

http://www.geda.seul.org/

I thought gEDA was Unix only??? If so I can not run all over my other programs I need to use it

And I pulled virtualbreadboard a couple months ago and it was free. Probably still in my downloads.

Anyway, at $19 for school version, come on folks. I would be all over a tool I needed. But I guess you want to try it first.

Now $269 for Proton+, I will still pass If they would give me 200 lines of code in the demo (like MikroBASIC) to really use it maybe.. Or $20 for a 500 line version.. Woohoo..

Not a bad idea. Dollar increments for the number of lines of code you need for all compilers. Eagle does that in a way with board size and layers.. They almost got me this year for Christmas to pop for the next level up.

I thought gEDA was Unix only??? If so I can not run all over my other programs I need to use it

It looks like you can get the source and compile for win32 if you want. You could also boot Linux in a virtual machine, or from a liveCD (with gEDA installed to a USB drive).

Originally Posted by gramo

Its a development suit, not just a standalone package;

You get the most powerful version of basic designed and continually updated for both the intermediate and high-end users;

Free updates, and there are many 'addons' that allow simple interfacing with SD cards for example, I’m just touching on the basics here

A VSM (to simulate your circuits in near real time, although its only locked to certain configurations - but its damn handy anyway, and the full version is probably the most powerful VSM on the market.

In Proteus 6 Professional you can develop complete circuits with thousands of components, including digital devices running with I2C/SPI/DALLAS 1 WIRE/UART practically anything, and then throw in a few virtual terminals for real time debugging, dc/ac signals for ADC/DAC/anything, and as soon as you hit 'simulate' your circuit is as it would be in real life.

That all sounds good. But not what I need.

I am just to lazy to write in ASM. I liked their 50 line demo but could not test it on a VERY SIMPLE project. Charge LDR/cap, read it and sound a buzzer... I ran out of lines. 50 is a bit low, could not do it in assembler in 50 lines. Do they not know that the new Microchips have so many features, it might take 5-10 lines to turn on and off what a person needs?

I like MPLABS the best for debug/programming. I would rather write the code (in basic and no major MikroBASIC complaints), breadboard (or make a PCB) and go from there.

My projects are simple. I do not need a sim if I have all the parts and can make the board. Nothing fancy..

Do not get me wrong, it sounds like a good tool. But I would break off the compiler and make some money if I were them. BasicMICRO and MELABS did (and many others).

They need a none Proteus version for people that have ICD2 and MPLABS and like BASIC. They are stuck in the BASICSTAMP world sort of.

My projects are, I need to make these high and this low for X seconds. Blink the LED while doing that, maybe ADC. I do not need a simulator for that. Just the PIC chip in most cases. I want to write it and drop thru the MPLABS/ICD2 and go. And if the LST file has the BASIC lines commented in it I will "view program memory" and walk though the MPLABS debugger if ICD is an option for that pic.

I think they are missing a market. They would save me time anyway.