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    tkc100 tkc100 is offline

    Automated Load Tester

    A part of my job is maintaining several solar installations. They are residential units all using 6 volt deep cycle batteries in a series parallel configuration. Once a year it is necessary to break the battery banks down for cleaning and routine service. One part of that service is actually testing the individual batteries capacity. I wish the budget was better because I would recommend purchasing an impedance tester but alas that is not in the foreseeable future.
    So I need to build a simple load tester so that I can run a capacity test unattended. I have attached a diagram of what I have in mind and I am hoping someone will have some off the self solutions for the LVD and the timer.
    I’m sure the circuits are out there I just don’t have the exposure to know what might be available.
    I’m not an electrical engineer so the theory is beyond my expertise but if the project requires assembly that’s no problem.
    Any ideas and or help you all can provide will be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks!
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    4pyros 4pyros is offline
    With that setup you would need a varable load resister to keep at a constant 25 amps. Thats hard because most load resisters would be fixed.
    Maybe try a current regulater into a fixed load.
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    tkc100 tkc100 is offline
    I understand as the voltage drops the load would have to change also in order to keep a constant amperage draw.
    In reality there is very little voltage difference between a fully charged 6 volt battery (6.35) and a completely discharged one (5.25).
    I practice I would probably not completely discharge the battery. It's very hard on the battery and very time consuming. Discharging it to 50% (6.1)or perhaps a most 80% (5.99)would be suitable and come close to matching the actual performance expectations.
    I used the formula R=E/I and determined that to produce a 25 amp load with 6.35 volts would require a resistance of .254 ohms. The difference in resistance between a fully charged battery and a completely discharged one is only. .04 ohms. Help me here if I'm going off the deep end. Purchasing a 155 watt resistor to that close of tolerance would be difficult. So I would no doubt have to do a bit of compromising. The load isn't really that critical with a little math I can compensate and what is more important is a comparison from one test cycle to the next.
    So for now unless someone has a better idea let's go with a compromise on the load and except the fact that it will only show a mean value.
    What is more important to this project is an accurate LVD it has to be accurate. The more accurate the better.
    Thanks for your input!
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    4pyros 4pyros is offline
    I would stay with a 25 amp current regulator. Trying to use just a load resister would be inaccurate.
    IE It mite be fine for the 1st battery but may be off for the 2 nd battery test do to the change in resistance after heating.
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    ronv ronv is offline
    Not sure how close you need to measure them but it might be easier to manipulate the time rather than the load. For example: The 50% point using a .25 ohm resistor would be 25.44 amps at 6.36 volts(100%) and 24.4 amps at 6.1 volts (50%). But having said that I think battery voltage as a function of capacity is under no load. Maybe you can confirm that. It seems to be hard to find a LVD for 6 volt batteries - especially adjustable ones. This would be pretty easy to build but hard to find off the shelf.
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    tkc100 tkc100 is offline
    Good point!
    It would not be unusual to have 16 batteries to test.
    Current Regulator?!? The water getting deep here. What such an animal look like and what kind of expense are we talking about?
    I would actually prefer the LVD to be fixed. Or at best have three fixed values 6.10, 5.99 and 5.25 volts
    I'm not shy about having to build a circuit but have not idea how to design one.
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    tkc100 tkc100 is offline
    ronv
    I just read the other part of your post.
    Your right SOC is measured OCV but a test such as this measure the time it take for a battery to go from fully charged to the cut off threshold under the prescribed load.
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    4pyros 4pyros is offline
    Maybe somthing like this for a LVD
    http://www.toadzrc.com/novak-smart-s...batt-5472.html
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    ronv ronv is offline
    Okay, so all that leaves us with is the timer. I noticed you said self powered. Does that mean plug into the wall or having its own battery?
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    tkc100 tkc100 is offline
    The timer is quite possibly the easiest part of the project
    Self power because it can't depend upon power from the battery being tested.
    Even with my limited knowledge of electronics I can envision several ways to do this.
    Perhaps the simplest would be a Hobbs meter attached to a relay power by the LVD.

    I viewed the LVD disconnect suggest but I'm afraid the cut out voltage is too high.
    6.25 volts which represents about an 80%SOC
    Also I'm not sure how the throttling function would be dealt with.

    A circuit design for a LVD that could be modified to have three separate values would be great.

    What about the current regulator?
    Is this some thing that need to be built or purchase?
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