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Old 14th November 2004, 06:23 PM   #1
Default Timer Circuit...Can I Replace the 4020 with a 4060?

Im making a timer for a water pump, out of a 120V Solid State Relay.
its has adjustble ON and OFF delays from 2 seconds to 4h 30min.
Pin # Schematic Pin Delay Time
9 Q1 2 sec
7 Q4 16 sec
5 Q5 32 sec
4 Q6 ~ 1 min
6 Q7 ~2 min
13 Q8 ~ 4 min
12 Q9 ~ 8 min
14 Q10 ~ 17 min
15 Q11 ~34 min
1 Q12 ~ 68 min
2 Q13 ~ 2 hr 15 min
3 Q14 ~4 hr 30 min

Now im wondering if i can do this circuit with a 4060 counter...cause i dont have access to any 4020's.
i also would like to change the interval timings to something like 1 second to like 8 hours for the OFF cycle.

would this be the proper way to change this...is this schematic even correct....could someone post a schematic of a timer capable of this?
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Old 14th November 2004, 07:49 PM   #2
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the 4060
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Old 14th November 2004, 08:02 PM   #3
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the parts
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Old 14th November 2004, 08:08 PM   #4
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the parts are not pin for pin compatable but you CAN use the 4060 yes..
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Old 14th November 2004, 08:12 PM   #5
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Im sorry but i dont really understand these cmos chips to much....i cant understand how to incoperate the 4060 into this timer and what effect it will have on interval delays
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Old 14th November 2004, 09:57 PM   #6
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Since the 4060 haven't Q1 and Q11, the 2sec and the 34min not available.
But You can use the another section of 4013 for Q11.
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Old 14th November 2004, 11:11 PM   #7
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the 4013
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Old 15th November 2004, 12:01 AM   #8
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so how would i incorperate the 4060 into this circuit, and how will it affect the interval times....a schematic would help
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Old 15th November 2004, 12:05 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by calenk
so how would i incorperate the 4060 into this circuit, and how will it affect the interval times....a schematic would help
i cant draw a schematic because I cant tell where the the connections go on your circuit..
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Old 15th November 2004, 01:09 AM   #10
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well would you know how to make a timer with adustble on and off times capable of minutes and hours....????
sorry im a newbie at circuit design.
thanks
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Old 15th November 2004, 01:18 AM   #11
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ok EXACTLY what do you need..??
I'll see what i can come up with..
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Old 15th November 2004, 01:56 AM   #12
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i need a 120v timer that i can adjust the ON and OFF delays
via (2) 12 position rotary switches or potentiometers with a widerange of delay times- 1min to 8 hours or something

preferablly using 14 stage counters or whatever is needed for a wide arrangent of delay times ranging from 1 minute to 8hours or so. even being able to use seconds like the schematic i posted would be cool....(that schematic i posted is even exactly what i need it just the closest i can find)

using a solid state relay or something i need to turn on a 120v water pump for a short period of time. then turn it off for a long period.(the reason for the wide range of delays)
and just keep cycling these timings until there changed

so basically i need an ajustable cycle timer where you can set the on time any where from 1 min to 8 hours, and set the off time any where from 1 min to 8 hours aswell.

so anything like the schematic i posted would be sufficient,its ajustble by 12 delay intervals for both on and off cycles and it can even go down to seconds

let me know if i need to be more specific
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Old 15th November 2004, 02:37 AM   #13
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i see now ..the top of the green & yellow (set & reset )lines were switches...ok
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Old 15th November 2004, 06:54 AM   #14
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well would you know how to make a timer with adustble on and off times capable of minutes and hours....????
sorry im a newbie at circuit design.
The simplest way would be to use a PIC, you could use that to generate any delay you wanted - from microseconds to years, all from a single chip and very few other components. The largest number of external components would be involved in setting the time you want!.
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Old 15th November 2004, 07:11 PM   #15
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oh yea the schematic i posted also has and "auto on feture" meaning it automatically start in the on cycle when power is applied...that what these component are for i believe.
Res. at bottom = 1K ohm
Res at middle = 10K ohm
Cap. at bottom = 68 uF

again i dont know much about this stuff....so im not sure
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