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    browningbuck
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    Default how much can go through a PCB

    So i was going to use a voltage cuttoff like this to power a relay


    how ever i was not thrilled about the current draw across the relay, so i found that you could use a IRF4905 to make a solid state high side switch no draw .... so i drew this up
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    now i was drawing up my board so i could etch it and it hit me, can the PCB handle the draw im putting through it? the mosfet is rated to 5-10A (total as drawn 10-20A). the battery is 2.3A @ 12V(i know its over rated its an idea right now) now if i were to apply that load to it would the etched board take it with out acting like a fuse and burning up?

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    browningbuck
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    Ahhh, so no it wouldn't! I'm glad I asked. I'll revise my idea and use the relay with a remote to my pcb to turn it on

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    ronsimpson
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    Use 2 ounce copper helps. Also you can remove the solder mask over the high current traces, then add a heavy layer of solder on the traces.

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    kinarfi
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    Got any solder wick, solder to the current traces, the IRF4905s I'm using are good for 74 amps and I know for sure I've pushed 50 through them, heat sinked of course.
    Kinarfi

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    browningbuck
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    Quote Originally Posted by kinarfi View Post
    Got any solder wick, solder to the current traces, the IRF4905s I'm using are good for 74 amps and I know for sure I've pushed 50 through them, heat sinked of course.
    Kinarfi
    good idea.that would add quite a bit of surface area

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    Boncuk
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronsimpson View Post
    Use 2 ounce copper helps. Also you can remove the solder mask over the high current traces, then add a heavy layer of solder on the traces.
    Hi Ron,

    2 onces of copper (70µm thickness) helps in many cases. Heavy layers of solder burry a certain risk.

    Solder has 1/10 of the conductivity of copper. If the solder layer is not heavy enough it will melt and flow through the enclosure uncontrolled.

    Soldering stranded copper wire of appropriate cross section to the traces is much better (wire should have direct contact with the semiconductor pin) - although this is prohibited according to VDE (and CE) -rules.

    For high current applications it's advisable to use copper bars mounted on top of the traces with equi-spaced pins (normally 1/5") produding through the PCB to be soldered into the original copper trace.

    They take up the main current flow and use the copper trace just as a carrier.

    Regards

    Boncuk
    I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are still missing.

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    browningbuck
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    ahhh another good idea Boncuk, copper trace. now it seems like the next thing undersized would be the leads coming off the Mosfets. i know they are rated for it, but it just seems to me that there has to be a better solution to my problem. i mean so far i need omething that has the ability of a high amp relay, but does not require a substantial draw

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    kinarfi
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    Just back up the traces to and from the FETs and don't sweat the size of the leads, I did for a while and finally got over it, on the spec sheet for the IRF2805, I read an interesting spec, it basically said the silicone could handle 175 amps but the case could only handle 75 amps. I agree that the leads look to small for very much current, but I'm sure the manufacturers have already covered this. Don't sweat the little stuff, the IRF4905 will handle your 50 amps draw if heat sinked.
    Kinarfi

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    shortbus=
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    Have you ever seen this style of Mosfet; http://www.st.com/stonline/products/.../ste53nc50.pdf

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