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Old 1st July 2009, 03:58 AM   #76
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My memory was somewhat correct. Over here, back in may a 15 and 16 year old beat a 50ish woman and man to death in a double murdrer.
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Old 3rd July 2009, 05:48 AM   #77
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I am not sure of the problem. Around here if some under aged kids get to big for their britches they get taken down a notch. Harassing someones pets would get immediate attention from me.
I admit I liked getting a few high strung rat dogs wound up as a kid but I never intentionally harmed any of them.

Given the situation if a kid of any age hit me on purpose after being verbally warned to stop doing something unacceptable I would have no problem with hitting them right back!

In an assault situation you are fully in you rights to stand your ground and incapacitate your attackers with just cause. Its a you or them situation. If you duck and run it will make them feel superior and thusly they will do it again and do it to more people simply because they can get away with it. A black eye is no big deal. It will heal.

I would have had no problem with knocking heads together and then dragging both of them back to their parents house or to the nearest phone and got the authorities involved immediately!

I have a number of family members that work in the school systems and if some kids known for being trouble makers got rough with another kid or adult and got beat down very little would be made out of it. Even if the parents try and take it to court a judge would look at the kids record and see the problems and then look the other persons and if that person has a clean record the case would immediately be tossed out!

Threatening to kill someone is a common threat that comes up under instances of high stress and frustration. Judges know that and dont take that as an actual honest intention, its just verbal posturing. Especially when its been directed a teenage delinquents.
I have threatened to kill my brother thousands of times and he is still alive! He has done the same to me as well!

If you really need to teach them a lesson a cloth bag over the head, and hands tied behind the back, followed by a ride in a trunk and a push and shove game out in the country with a few friends and no words spoken, tends to make a stupid trouble maker think about the consequences of there actions while they get themselves out of the bag and have a nice long walk home!

If you been bagged, roughed up and had no way to see or hear who did it, its pretty hard to accuse someone of doing it! A little honest fear can make a trouble maker think real hard about what they have done to deserve it!

I have never participated in such an event but I know a few who have been on the teaching side and one person who was on the learning side of it before. Scared him strait as I understand it!

Too bad you dont live closer, I would have no problem with teaching them a little manners and respect, old fashioned country style!
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Old 3rd July 2009, 04:46 PM   #78
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Too bad you dont live closer, I would have no problem with teaching them a little manners and respect, old fashioned country style!
They've shown cases where just working with animals like you were raised can calm them down and give them respect by taking care of animals and having direct responsibility to a living creature depending on you for their existance.


First a bond with the animal happens then they learn how dependent the animal is and that it needs attention as well as care in all aspects.

New found respect occurs and sometimes they are changed for life.

I say get their lazy butts up in the morning and crack the wipe until dusk.

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Old 3rd July 2009, 05:35 PM   #79
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I was actually leaning towards the bag, beating and long limp home method myself!
But sure why not get them to pet the cats for a while.
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Old 3rd July 2009, 05:54 PM   #80
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Could always pick up a cat and throw it at them, or drop one off a balcony. The kids will find a new respect for cats...
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Old 3rd July 2009, 05:55 PM   #81
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I was actually leaning towards the bag, beating and long limp home method myself!
But sure why not get them to pet the cats for a while.
I say shovel 40,000 pounds of horse shi........ and make them feed them and groom them.

Reduce their self enlarged ego's to a normal size or smaller. They have a false sense of pride and have no purpose in life.


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Old 3rd July 2009, 11:22 PM   #82
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Reduce their self enlarged ego's to a normal size or smaller. They have a false sense of pride and have no purpose in life.
Your referring to the kids and not some of the forum members here right?

I did the 20 tons of horse crap shoveling every year for most of my child hood. At first it humbling but after a while it brings out a whole new set of anger and self worth issues!
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Old 4th July 2009, 01:30 AM   #83
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Your referring to the kids and not some of the forum members here right?

I did the 20 tons of horse crap shoveling every year for most of my child hood. At first it humbling but after a while it brings out a whole new set of anger and self worth issues!


I think some humbling might occur but 20 tons of it.

That's to much....

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Old 7th July 2009, 02:35 PM   #84
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Heh i just seen the post count on this and this may be too late Lol dont mind me . just needed to write


I think 2 13 year kids and there act of animal cruelty and trying to jump you for defending Innocent animals give your the right to hit them a few. If anything i think there parent should get in trouble. Who the hell wouldn't teach there own kids that, that is wrong? If there parents cant discipline them then heh its there own fault for jumping in a shark tank with blood on em

I live in the PROJECTs(hood/ghetto) lol. Over here a 8 year old kid would fight you even if your 30 lol it doesnt matter. Thats why i know its the parents fault. You see them and then your like oh!....really.... then you beat there kids ass then they get mad and then they try to get you in trouble then you find out you are only getting a slap on the wrist by a hot cop lol

Dont worry. It was self defense from 2 kids trying to jump you. If anything say this to the cops (if it comes to it)

If they had a knife and i got stabbed up you wouldnt be talking to me now right? 2 kids are worse than 2 man. Kids are fast as fuc* and unpredictable. I rather fight someone older than me (im 24) than 2 younger

heh let me stop typing too much experience here

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Old 14th July 2009, 06:34 PM   #85
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Well, maybe someone already said this, but I am too lazy to read all the six pages (I only have read three)

Don't give up! Your home and your cats worth more than a couple of future gangsters. Put a target outside (a nicely painted mailbox,a lamp, something pretty and easily breakeable.)
Obviously, don't forget the videocamera filming it. That pair of lice will not resist the temptation of showing who they really are (not exactly the mommy's whitest sheep)
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Old 23rd July 2009, 12:01 PM   #86
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maybe punching the kid in the face was a bit much...but he did deserve it for hitting the guy in the back of the head with a 2x4 or whatever it was. thats just criminal.
i think i would have taken the wood away from him and whooped his butt with it like a belt and tell him to get out if he knows whats good for him. no harm done there.
of course the cops and parents wont see it that way....
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