Depends. Weight that against the probability of the cops come looking for you instead? Would you prefer that?

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Tanaka Sensei (avatar) says: Please spell it "ridiculous" correctly! Not "rediculous". ^^

 

Get a head cam and a microphone record the incident what ever happens at least it's on tape and someone will be able to show them as the offenders meanwhile make sure you say some thing like well I know but they first started throwing rocks and then hit me in the back of the head. It was only then I defended myself.

Of course this will not stop them from attacking you. But, that creates a precedence and then that recording can prove you as the victim and them as the attackers. But, you have to just cover best you can and take a beating, put 911 speed dial on your phone too! So, the cops can get the incident on voice recording.


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They've already done that plus people a nice wood to the back of the head !

I wouldn't worry about you having influenced them permanently but how they will permanently influence you.


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You're right guys, thanks.
If it happens again, i'll call the cops and whatever the cops will decide to do with the knowledge of me hitting these two kids, is in their hands, all i can do is telling them what really happend.

 

I think the children deserved it and were incredibly stupid to start a fight they should have knon they couldn't win.

A similar thing has happened to me a couple of times in my life: Once a bully set his little brother on me, I pinned him to the ground and banged his head on the floor, the bully then punched me in the face, knocked me down, then left. Another time a kid half my size started on me, again I pinned him to the floor and told him I'd kill him if he tries to fight me again, his older friends came over and threw me in the prickly bushes.

What should you have done in the first place? From what you've said, the kids were just being annoying at first and not actually doing any harm; is this true? If so you should have ignored it, the chances are they would have got board.

If they persisted and started stoning your cats, you should have threatened to call the police if they didn't stop. If they carried on, then you could have used 'reasonable force' to expel them from your property. I take it this is your house, flat or rented accommodation? I don't know what the law is where you live but here in the UK you're allowed to kick people out of you house as long as you don't deliberately harm them, from what I've gathered in the US it's more relaxed, you can shoot them if they refuse to leave.

What should you do now?

Watch out for their brothers or fathers and try to remain calm if you end up in a confrontation with them.

I'm probably not a very good person to give advice on the matter. I'm all right talking about it but, like you, don't always do very well in this sorts of situations.

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Yeah, it's easy to talk when you're not in the situtation. I'm reading the "life-threatening situtations" thread and personally, I don't know if I would realize that I was in a situtation that I would need to fight my way out of.

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Tanaka Sensei (avatar) says: Please spell it "ridiculous" correctly! Not "rediculous". ^^

 

Definitely get some sort of video camera set up, and get something recorded. Ask around the neighborhood, and see who else has had problems. It's unlikely you are the first, or this will be the end of it. They are going to get worse, until the police catch them. Worst the courts will give you is probation and a record. Too bad you posted this publicly, never admit to anything, let them prove it.

I'm 6'4", and a little over 200 lbs, so seldom get into anything physical, not to mention I like large breed dogs. Sometimes I run into people that talk a lot of trash, but its just words. Cats are cheap to replace, but are usually pretty good at taking care of themselves. My Siamese would have scratched them silly, she had no fear.

Anyway, if a kid gets physical with me, he's going to be dealt with like an adult, and learn the respect his parents should have taught him. Even a small child (6 years old) can fire a gun and kill. An 11 year old can be fatal with a knife. I have no intention of being a victim in the morgue. Like I said, the courts will most likely just give probation, a nuisance, but much better than the alternative.

If you can't afford a camera, get a fake one ($10+/-), or throw something together the looks like it could be a security camera. If they believe their actions will come back to haunt them, no way to lie about it...

 

Alphacat -- read my sig line and use me as your proxy -- have them come over to your monitor, standing real close to it. I reach through and slap them a good one --- meantime you never laid a hand on them! They've been cyber-spanked and send them on their way.

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I can feel that wake up call from here.


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Edit: Every once and a while I need one. Life slaps much, much harder.

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If I had a 13 year old kid and some 22 year old male blackened his eye, regardless of what they did, I would be looking for a little payback. If I were you, I would be worried on three fronts. Angry brother, angry fathers, and litigation.
Very foolish response by you and perhaps this worry you now carry is deserved. Animal abuse is ugly and wrong, but as an adult you should have conducted yourself as an adult as I am sure there were more responsible ways in which to handle the situation.

If you were in the U.S. you would most likely be in jail right now. Where exactly are you from?

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Not suprising since it seems many parents will stick by their kids regardless of ANYTHING they did.

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Tanaka Sensei (avatar) says: Please spell it "ridiculous" correctly! Not "rediculous". ^^

 

I have no idea where you got this tidbit of info from, but it is very incorrect. You can not shoot someone in America just because they will not leave your domicile.

Deadly force is only permissible when the personal safety of you or a family member is threatened by the intruder. For example; a robber breaks into your house and starts taking your possessions, you awaken and approach the robber, the robber attempts to flee your residence but you unleash your wrath and put a few extra crevices in his back. This would be considered murder. Reason being the robber was attempting to flee and your life was no longer in danger, so in shooting the robber you acted with excess force. Get what I mean?

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Are you saying that if some adult smacked your child and blackened his eye that you would do nothing? I would have little respect for such a person.

Maybe you will change your attitude once you have children. Adults should never use excess force on a child such as described in this post. Surely other forms of restraint could have been used.

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I'd like to would depend on the story the kid told me and how much of the actual truth I knew. Maybe my attitude would change if I had kids, maybe not. But don't think for a second that I don't know what it was like to have vastly excessive force used on my by an adult. Probably far worse than those kids for something that wasn't even physical- speaking up was enough. That's probably why I'm less disturbed by this than you seem to be. I've moderated those experiences down to the more reasonable belief of an "eye for an eye". Doesn't matter who it is. I have also had to deal with "weaker" people hurling heavy things at me. To me this seems more like appropriate force, than excessive. I don't know why you think what you think, but that's why I think what I think.

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Tanaka Sensei (avatar) says: Please spell it "ridiculous" correctly! Not "rediculous". ^^

 

An eye for a eye does not apply to children as adults should have the wisdom and foresight to make the right decision. It is the adult that must make the right choice and act accordingly, to stoop to a childlike level only demonstrates childlike behavior by the adult and perhaps this person has much growing up to do.

As Alphacat stated he was twice the size of these youngsters, yet chose to smack them in the face with fist, surely he could have just restrained the children from throwing rocks with his strength alone, yet he chose excessive force. To me this is very wrong and I will not feel sorry if he is prosecuted. As adults we are expected to conduct ourselves in a mature manner, this is what separates a child and an adult.

I agree there are kids out there that seem hopeless and beyond the point of no return, this does not justify vigilante justice.

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