+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2
1 2 Last
Results 1 to 15 of 18

Thread: 35 year old modem connecting to the Internet

  1. #1
    Sceadwian Excellent Sceadwian Excellent Sceadwian Excellent Sceadwian Excellent Sceadwian Excellent Sceadwian Excellent Sceadwian Excellent
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Rochester, NY U.S.
    Posts
    9,821
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default 35 year old modem connecting to the Internet

    They just don't make stuff like this anymore.
    35 years old and still good as new.
    YouTube - 1964 Antique MODEM Live Demo
    "Because I be what I be. I would tell you what you want to know if I
    could, mum, but I be a cat, and no cat anywhere ever gave anyone a
    straight answer, har har."


  2. #2
    HarveyH42 Excellent HarveyH42 Excellent HarveyH42 Excellent HarveyH42 Excellent HarveyH42 Excellent HarveyH42 Excellent HarveyH42 Excellent
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    3,081

    Default

    I read about this the other day, reminded me of High School computer class. Personal computers were just coming onto the market (TRS-80, Apple...), but we had Teletype terminals with 300 baud acoustical modems. Pretty slow going, but we also shared the same Data General computer with most of the other schools and colleges in the state. Can't imagine what it would be like browsing the internet at 300 baud, or downloading a couple meg data sheet. 2400 baud on my old Commodore 64 BBS was pretty damn slow.

  3. #3
    Super Moderator Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Derbyshire, UK
    Posts
    29,759

    Default

    My first modem was 300 baud, I made it from a Maplin kit - it's all the speed there was back then.
    PIC programmer software, and PIC Tutorials at:
    http://www.winpicprog.co.uk

  4. #4
    Sceadwian Excellent Sceadwian Excellent Sceadwian Excellent Sceadwian Excellent Sceadwian Excellent Sceadwian Excellent Sceadwian Excellent
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Rochester, NY U.S.
    Posts
    9,821
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Back then those speeds were fine, the Internet wasn't even a fraction as data rich as it is today. Just for giggles I did the math, a 1 meg file would take 9.7 hours to download, and that doesn't even include TCP/IP overhead =\
    "Because I be what I be. I would tell you what you want to know if I
    could, mum, but I be a cat, and no cat anywhere ever gave anyone a
    straight answer, har har."

  5. #5
    Super Moderator Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Derbyshire, UK
    Posts
    29,759

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sceadwian View Post
    Back then those speeds were fine, the Internet wasn't even a fraction as data rich as it is today. Just for giggles I did the math, a 1 meg file would take 9.7 hours to download, and that doesn't even include TCP/IP overhead =\
    Except there wasn't any internet available to the public - it came years later.

    I must admit I was VERY disappointed with internet speeds when I first got it, previously using BBS's you could download all your emails and news articles as a single zipped file at decent speeds. Come the internet, and emails and news just dribbles in - even now with broadband it's not terribly fast.
    PIC programmer software, and PIC Tutorials at:
    http://www.winpicprog.co.uk

  6. #6
    Sceadwian Excellent Sceadwian Excellent Sceadwian Excellent Sceadwian Excellent Sceadwian Excellent Sceadwian Excellent Sceadwian Excellent
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Rochester, NY U.S.
    Posts
    9,821
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    I'm not sure how you can say with broadband now is not terribly fast, in relation to what, being able to download in 1-10 seconds the same amount of data that took 10 hours?
    "Because I be what I be. I would tell you what you want to know if I
    could, mum, but I be a cat, and no cat anywhere ever gave anyone a
    straight answer, har har."

  7. #7
    ericgibbs Excellent ericgibbs Excellent ericgibbs Excellent ericgibbs Excellent ericgibbs Excellent ericgibbs Excellent ericgibbs Excellent ericgibbs Excellent ericgibbs Excellent ericgibbs Excellent ericgibbs Excellent
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Hampshire. England.
    Posts
    10,797
    Blog Entries
    13

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sceadwian View Post
    I'm not sure how you can say with broadband now is not terribly fast, in relation to what, being able to download in 1-10 seconds the same amount of data that took 10 hours?
    In Japan they have 100Meg broadband, in relative terms, yours is slooooooooow.!
    Eric " Good enough is Perfect "
    I will NOT answer PM's requesting technical help, please use the Forum
    PIC tutorials: Nigel's www.winpicprog.co.uk/ Bill's: www.blueroomelectronics.com/

  8. #8
    Super Moderator Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Derbyshire, UK
    Posts
    29,759

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sceadwian View Post
    I'm not sure how you can say with broadband now is not terribly fast, in relation to what, being able to download in 1-10 seconds the same amount of data that took 10 hours?
    The download of emails and news is still far slower, with BBS's you had a single connection to the external computer, and you weren't hampered by networking constraints. You entire emails and news could be downloaded as one single zipped file, and usually only took a few seconds - now a single email takes longer than that.

    Downloading large files is an entirely different affair, it's not the link that's slow, it's the source of your emails and newsgroups - plus the fact you're using a bloated OS and GUI, instead of a fast DOS text only system.
    PIC programmer software, and PIC Tutorials at:
    http://www.winpicprog.co.uk

  9. #9
    killivolt Excellent killivolt Excellent killivolt Excellent killivolt Excellent killivolt Excellent killivolt Excellent killivolt Excellent killivolt Excellent
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    U.S.
    Posts
    1,597

    Default

    Funny. I wrote a story involving a modem like this 30 yrs ago. I mentioned the story to one of my co-workers at the University they are professional writer editors and they asked if I would bring it to them.

    When it mentioned the modem and how it used the phone. They were confused.

    Now I can show them.

    Thanks for taking me for a ride in the "waybackthere - machine".


    kv
    General Thade: Is there a soul in there?

  10. #10
    mramos1 Excellent mramos1 Excellent mramos1 Excellent mramos1 Excellent
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Boynton Beach, Florida USA
    Posts
    2,254

    Default

    Ahh, let's date ourselves.

    I ran a BBS on a TRS-80 model I with 16K of dynamic RAM (yes that is a K) and with the Hayes Stack 300 baud modems. I had 4 lines I paid for so everyone in the area could network/play. It was a 4K unit I stacked chips for more RAM space.

    I wrote the BBS in ASM and ROM BASIC. I called my RS232 drivers from ROM BASIC and ran my floppy file system as well (before that your had to load off tape and run from RAM). Before Bill Gates was around and invented it all and thank goodness Al Gore jumped in and made the Internet .

    I recall the clunk sound the floppy (Seagate) drive made at night. People had to wait for someone get off a line to get online when all four were in use. Not like we have today for sure. I miss the old days.

    Also, I used what is now called or became the Internet, "but" I worked with the US .GOV back then. I used it for email and ftp at the day job. But it was not open to the public (far as they know). So there was no Internet back then.

    I can not believe we are still running on the old TCP/IP and UDP and the email system today but it is making a lot of people money.

  11. #11
    gabeNC Good gabeNC Good gabeNC Good
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    361

    Default

    The first time I remember seeing one of those TRS-80's... I was in 4th grade.

  12. #12
    tcmtech Excellent tcmtech Excellent tcmtech Excellent tcmtech Excellent tcmtech Excellent tcmtech Excellent tcmtech Excellent tcmtech Excellent tcmtech Excellent
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Sawyer, North Dakota, USA
    Posts
    3,237
    Blog Entries
    2

    Default

    The apple IIe was my first introduction to computers.
    Then the Mac classic came out about the time I graduated.
    I did not get on line stuff until college the next year. (1994)
    "When in doubt, LIGHT IT ON FIRE AND SEE WHAT COLOR OF SMOKE IT CAN MAKE!" -- tcmtech

  13. #13
    rmn_tech Good rmn_tech Good
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    West Midlands UK
    Posts
    214

    Default

    I still remember my first "computer" A Sinclair ZX80 "Not the ZX81" With a full 1k of usable RAM in 1978.
    I think, therefore I am. Therefore I must be !!! I think ???

  14. #14
    mramos1 Excellent mramos1 Excellent mramos1 Excellent mramos1 Excellent
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Boynton Beach, Florida USA
    Posts
    2,254

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by rmn_tech View Post
    I still remember my first "computer" A Sinclair ZX80 "Not the ZX81" With a full 1k of usable RAM in 1978.
    Sometimes I think I would rather have an 8080 than what I have today but I have to make a living. Did the Timex version come later?

    All the bloat, viri, bugs, spam. You have less bugs and bloat in that small amount of ROM/RAM and no spam. Maybe that is why I like the microcontrollers so much.

  15. #15
    Super Moderator Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent Nigel Goodwin Excellent
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Derbyshire, UK
    Posts
    29,759

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by mramos1 View Post
    Sometimes I think I would rather have an 8080 than what I have today but I have to make a living. Did the Timex version come later?
    Timex was the name used in the USA for the UK made Sinclair computers.

    Personally I built a Microtan Tangerine, a modular 6502 based kit computer (which I still have) - it was the same time as the ZX80, before the ZX81.
    PIC programmer software, and PIC Tutorials at:
    http://www.winpicprog.co.uk

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2
1 2 Last

Similar Threads

  1. Modem to modem connection.
    By john1 in forum General Electronics Chat
    Replies: 16
    Latest: 7th May 2009, 02:28 AM
  2. Replies: 13
    Latest: 17th January 2009, 07:48 AM
  3. Internet on the TV box
    By Beaulieu in forum Electronic Projects Design/Ideas/Reviews
    Replies: 3
    Latest: 11th April 2007, 06:56 PM
  4. Internet controlled RC car
    By MrNobody in forum Robotics Chat
    Replies: 11
    Latest: 7th October 2006, 08:19 PM
  5. Internet Connection
    By nye in forum General Electronics Chat
    Replies: 23
    Latest: 9th January 2006, 05:17 AM

Tags for this Thread