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Mikebits · 27th June 2008, 08:00 AM

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henrybot · 27th June 2008, 08:25 AM

I think when this planet is being irradiated in WWIII and you're safe on Mars enjoying some tasty asparagus, you will be quite thrilled with the $420 million spent

Considering what other things the U.S. government has wasted that much money on in the past, it's not too bad of a deal. At least something is getting done.

-mike

Mikebits · 27th June 2008, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrybot

I think when this planet is being irradiated in WWIII and you're safe on Mars enjoying some tasty asparagus, you will be quite thrilled with the $420 million spent

Considering what other things the U.S. government has wasted that much money on in the past, it's not too bad of a deal. At least something is getting done.

-mike

Considering that I can barely afford filling my gas tank at $4.65/gal , I would think $420 million would go a long way into alternative fuel research.

jpanhalt · 27th June 2008, 01:44 PM

The US government has priorities, but with trillions of dollars, should be able to do more than one thing at a time.

What evidence is there that an additional $420 million in "alternative fuel" wouldn't just end up in the pockets of various fat cats.

The exact same narrow-minded argument you present could be applied to any other important issue, fighting crime, child abuse, poverty, clean water, even more help to the Katrina victims.

John

davidbball13 · 27th June 2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikebits

Considering that I can barely afford filling my gas tank at $4.65/gal , I would think $420 million would go a long way into alternative fuel research.

were the hell do you live????? it is 3.17$ for a gallon of unleaded and 3.45$ for super
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**microtexan** · 27th June 2008, 02:44 PM

even more help to the Katrina victims You've got to be kidding! You and I have paid more to the recovery of Katrina "victims" than any other US disaster in history. Give me a break.

jpanhalt · 27th June 2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by microtexan

even more help to the Katrina victims You've got to be kidding! You and I have paid more to the recovery of Katrina "victims" than any other US disaster in history. Give me a break.

My comment re. Katrina was intended to be sarcastic.

John

**Krumlink** · 27th June 2008, 04:21 PM

I personally think this is a fantastic discovery, and not to mention that water is frozen under the surface. This is a major discovery also in many ways of human engineering (go USA woot)

Menticol · 27th June 2008, 05:59 PM

I really admire the older NASA's work, love the launch video of 1969 and the bravery of all these men. Also the Russians, I don't care about the political reasons, they put their lives on risk to get the job done, and that deserves my respect.

Off course, their work set the basis for our actual technology (satellite comunications, etc).

However, I think the actual NASA work is a waste of money. I'll not say they must share the money with poor people: if you have the money, you can spend it anyway you want. But what do we know about the earthqakes? how to predict tornados? how to get rid of nuclear waste? Maybe the outer space is the answer, but the NASA doesn't know it yet, because is too busy researching about the holes of a rock of the MX7654545 planet, wich is 120 light/years away from earth.

**3v0** · 27th June 2008, 06:00 PM

If we could covert car production to carbon fiber it would go a long way toward solving the supply problem.

But a fleet of cars with 3x the mileage
would result in gas/Pietro at 3x its current price. MHO

A fleet of disel-over-electric powered carbon fiber cars could do even better.

**microtexan** · 27th June 2008, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpanhalt

My comment re. Katrina was intended to be sarcastic.

John

Sorry, did not catch taht as sarcasm, my mistake!

**Krumlink** · 27th June 2008, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Menticol

I really admire the older NASA's work, love the launch video of 1969 and the bravery of all these men. Also the Russians, I don't care about the political reasons, they put their lives on risk to get the job done, and that deserves my respect.

Off course, their work set the basis for our actual technology (satellite comunications, etc).

However, I think the actual NASA work is a waste of money. I'll not say they must share the money with poor people: if you have the money, you can spend it anyway you want. But what do we know about the earthqakes? how to predict tornados? how to get rid of nuclear waste? Maybe the outer space is the answer, but the NASA doesn't know it yet, because is too busy researching about the holes of a rock of the MX7654545 planet, wich is 120 light/years away from earth.

It is all what people want to do. If you wanted to research archaeology, go ahead. If they want to research space, go ahead. To say that it is a waste shows that it is not one of your preferences, and you would rather research natural disasters. If you held the money in your hand, that is what you would do.

**3v0** · 27th June 2008, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Menticol

...
However, I think the actual NASA work is a waste of money. I'll not say they must share the money with poor people: if you have the money, you can spend it anyway you want. ...

It is easy to approve of past success.

During the Apollo moon program there were a good number of people saying it was a waste. Spend the money here where it is needed etc etc. Same song first verse.

Is there waste? Is it a government program? Same question, right.

It is good news that we may be able to grow crops on Mars.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krumlink

It is all what people want to do. If you wanted to research archaeology, go ahead. If they want to research space, go ahead. To say that it is a waste shows that it is not one of your preferences, and you would rather research natural disasters. If you held the money in your hand, that is what you would do.

Well said.

picbits · 27th June 2008, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3v0

If we could covert car production to carbon fiber it would go a long way toward solving the supply problem.

If you lot (Americans) started driving smaller engined cars it would go a long way towards solving the supply problem

Seriously though - over here in the UK if you drive a 2 Litre car its considered a large engine. There are 3 & 4 litre cars over here but they are quite rare.

When I visited the US a few months ago the smallest engined 7 seater we could hire was a 3.5 Litre. The majority of cars we saw were 4.0 litre or above.

On a lighter note, if I won the lottery here in the UK I'd move over to the USA in a flash (specifically south CA)

**3v0** · 27th June 2008, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by picbits

If you lot (Americans) started driving smaller engined cars it would go a long way toward solving the supply problem

Carbon fiber cars would let us do that, the cars would be fast, strong, and economical. GM 100 MPG Ultralite Show Car

Seriously though - over here in the UK if you drive a 2 Litre car its considered a large engine. There are 3 & 4 litre cars over here but they are quite rare.

When I visited the US a few months ago the smallest engined 7 seater we could hire was a 3.5 Litre. The majority of cars we saw were 4.0 litre or above.

We do not drive much so in the short term it is much cheaper to keep what we have and spend an extra $50 or even $100 a month at the pump.

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27th June 2008, 08:00 AM	(permalink)
Mikebits	Not bad for $420 million bucks eh? Martian soil good enough for asparagus: NASA Martian soil good enough for asparagus: NASA - Yahoo! News

27th June 2008, 08:25 AM	(permalink)
henrybot	Really not so bad... I think when this planet is being irradiated in WWIII and you're safe on Mars enjoying some tasty asparagus, you will be quite thrilled with the $420 million spent Considering what other things the U.S. government has wasted that much money on in the past, it's not too bad of a deal. At least something is getting done. -mike

27th June 2008, 01:44 PM	(permalink)
jpanhalt	The US government has priorities, but with trillions of dollars, should be able to do more than one thing at a time. What evidence is there that an additional $420 million in "alternative fuel" wouldn't just end up in the pockets of various fat cats. The exact same narrow-minded argument you present could be applied to any other important issue, fighting crime, child abuse, poverty, clean water, even more help to the Katrina victims. John

27th June 2008, 02:44 PM	(permalink)
microtexan	even more help to the Katrina victims You've got to be kidding! You and I have paid more to the recovery of Katrina "victims" than any other US disaster in history. Give me a break.

27th June 2008, 04:21 PM	(permalink)
Krumlink	I personally think this is a fantastic discovery, and not to mention that water is frozen under the surface. This is a major discovery also in many ways of human engineering (go USA woot) __________________ MechTronics World of Warcraft is a disease

27th June 2008, 05:59 PM	(permalink)
Menticol	I really admire the older NASA's work, love the launch video of 1969 and the bravery of all these men. Also the Russians, I don't care about the political reasons, they put their lives on risk to get the job done, and that deserves my respect. Off course, their work set the basis for our actual technology (satellite comunications, etc). However, I think the actual NASA work is a waste of money. I'll not say they must share the money with poor people: if you have the money, you can spend it anyway you want. But what do we know about the earthqakes? how to predict tornados? how to get rid of nuclear waste? Maybe the outer space is the answer, but the NASA doesn't know it yet, because is too busy researching about the holes of a rock of the MX7654545 planet, wich is 120 light/years away from earth. __________________ La Rotta

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3v0	If we could covert car production to carbon fiber it would go a long way toward solving the supply problem. But a fleet of cars with 3x the mileage would result in gas/Pietro at 3x its current price. MHO A fleet of disel-over-electric powered carbon fiber cars could do even better. __________________ search engine for electronic parts Junebug USB PIC programmer kit., USB Bit Wacker, 3v0's Homepage The 15 Minute Printed Circuit Board! (+drill time) Last edited by 3v0; 27th June 2008 at 06:00 PM.