Bring back the <CTRL> Y (line delete) in editors - Electronic Circuits Projects Diagrams Free

blueroomelectronics · 24th June 2008, 04:25 PM

I guess I'm old school but boy do I wish that <CTRL> Y (an old WordStar keyboard shortcut) was not missing in many modern editors.
<CTRL> Y will simply delete the entire line where the cursor is.
Example Swordfish BASICs IDE does use it

MPLAB does not

I guess I'll have to dig into MPLABs options to see if there is a way...

Pommie · 24th June 2008, 04:37 PM

I use it all the time in VB. It should be compulsory in all software.

Mike.

dknguyen · 24th June 2008, 04:57 PM

I use <END><SHIFT+HOME><BACKSPACE>...like the good old days before <CTRL> keys existed.

Wordstar...was that the DOS text software? I remember vaguely of using it a very very very very long time ago.

**Nigel Goodwin** · 24th June 2008, 05:15 PM

Wordstar commands are going back a LONG time, if I remember correctly Borland DOS IDE's were Wordstar compatible.

Torben · 24th June 2008, 07:25 PM

I simply don't use editors which don't allow complete customization. It's one reason I stay away from IDEs in general unless I can either substitute my favourite editor for the default one, or they have a really good emacs mode.

Of course, for me that means that Ctrl-Y means to paste whatever's in the kill ring to the cursor location, but I remember Ctrl-Y from the old Wordstar-based Borland editors in DOS.

Torben

Edit: I swear I didn't notice Nigel's post above on the Borland IDEs before I wrote this.

I just happened to remember using Turbo Pascal and Turbo C in high school.

Torben · 24th June 2008, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dknguyen

I use <END><SHIFT+HOME><BACKSPACE>...like the good old days before <CTRL> keys existed.

You mean typewriters? 'cause Ctrl has been around since teletype.

Torben

Styx · 24th June 2008, 07:44 PM

use (g)VI(M)

dd deletes that line
d5 deletes 5lines its all win with vim

**Krumlink** · 24th June 2008, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dknguyen

I use <END><SHIFT+HOME><BACKSPACE>

Cool new keyboard shortcut, you learn something everyday unless your in a vegetative state.

Torben · 24th June 2008, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krumlink

Cool new keyboard shortcut, you learn something everyday unless your in a vegetative state.

Four keystrokes to delete a line isn't really a shortcut.

All that does is move to the end of the line, start highlight, highlight to start of line, and delete.

Most editors can do it in two keystrokes at most. EDIT: But the fastest almost always ends up being whatever you have stored in your own muscle memory.

Torben

Pommie · 25th June 2008, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dknguyen

I use <END><SHIFT+HOME><BACKSPACE>...like the good old days before <CTRL> keys existed.

That leaves a blank line. <HOME><SHIFT+DOWN CURSOR><BACKSPACE> mimics CTRL-Y.

Mike.

blueroomelectronics · 25th June 2008, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pommie

That leaves a blank line. <HOME><SHIFT+DOWN CURSOR><BACKSPACE> mimics CTRL-Y.

Mike.

Just getting my fingers to press that combo on my laptop is tough, it looks like I'm summoning a demon.

Torben · 25th June 2008, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueroomelectronics

Just getting my fingers to press that combo on my laptop is tough, it looks like I'm summoning a demon.

Try Ctrl-Shift-K to delete the entire current line, and Ctrl-K to delete from the cursor to the end of the line.

Does that work?

Torben

Torben · 25th June 2008, 09:18 AM

Never mind. I just installed MPLAB and that doesn't work. Also, the hot keys available for editing appear to be severely limited. Perhaps the MPLAB IDE editor really is that brain damaged. I don't know.

OK, yeah, we get it. The 15-minute limitation on edits is also brain damaged. Can we have the old behaviour back now?

arhi · 26th June 2008, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styx

use (g)VI(M)

dd deletes that line
d5 deletes 5lines its all win with vim

vi rulez .. i use it on widows as well .. the fastest editor out there ... bit hard on the noob's but powerful ..

Mikebits · 26th June 2008, 07:54 AM

vi? OMG, what a pain that editor is... Unix nerds

I thought Brief was a good editor.

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24th June 2008, 04:25 PM	(permalink)
blueroomelectronics	Bring back the <CTRL> Y (line delete) in editors I guess I'm old school but boy do I wish that <CTRL> Y (an old WordStar keyboard shortcut) was not missing in many modern editors. <CTRL> Y will simply delete the entire line where the cursor is. Example Swordfish BASICs IDE does use it MPLAB does not I guess I'll have to dig into MPLABs options to see if there is a way... __________________ Bill Smart Kits build Smart People http://www.blueroomelectronics.com Last edited by blueroomelectronics; 24th June 2008 at 04:26 PM.

24th June 2008, 04:37 PM	(permalink)
Pommie	I use it all the time in VB. It should be compulsory in all software. Mike.

24th June 2008, 04:57 PM	(permalink)
dknguyen	I use <END><SHIFT+HOME><BACKSPACE>...like the good old days before <CTRL> keys existed. Wordstar...was that the DOS text software? I remember vaguely of using it a very very very very long time ago. __________________ NO, that picture isn't me so don't bother asking if we can be friends. Last edited by dknguyen; 24th June 2008 at 04:58 PM.

24th June 2008, 05:15 PM	(permalink)
Nigel Goodwin	Wordstar commands are going back a LONG time, if I remember correctly Borland DOS IDE's were Wordstar compatible. __________________ PIC programmer software, and PIC Tutorials at: http://www.winpicprog.co.uk

24th June 2008, 07:25 PM	(permalink)
Torben	I simply don't use editors which don't allow complete customization. It's one reason I stay away from IDEs in general unless I can either substitute my favourite editor for the default one, or they have a really good emacs mode. Of course, for me that means that Ctrl-Y means to paste whatever's in the kill ring to the cursor location, but I remember Ctrl-Y from the old Wordstar-based Borland editors in DOS. Torben Edit: I swear I didn't notice Nigel's post above on the Borland IDEs before I wrote this. I just happened to remember using Turbo Pascal and Turbo C in high school. __________________ Curiosity was framed. Ignorance killed the cat. Last edited by Torben; 24th June 2008 at 07:30 PM.

24th June 2008, 07:44 PM	(permalink)
Styx	use (g)VI(M) dd deletes that line d5 deletes 5lines its all win with vim __________________ Nothing is impossible. Once a problem is realised, the rest is just details

25th June 2008, 09:18 AM	(permalink)
Torben	Never mind. I just installed MPLAB and that doesn't work. Also, the hot keys available for editing appear to be severely limited. Perhaps the MPLAB IDE editor really is that brain damaged. I don't know. OK, yeah, we get it. The 15-minute limitation on edits is also brain damaged. Can we have the old behaviour back now? __________________ Curiosity was framed. Ignorance killed the cat. Last edited by Torben; 25th June 2008 at 09:18 AM.

26th June 2008, 07:54 AM	(permalink)
Mikebits	vi? OMG, what a pain that editor is... Unix nerds I thought Brief was a good editor.