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Old 19th May 2008, 03:41 AM   (permalink)
Default Pentium 4 vs. Celeron- which one is better?

Got me two 'puters for free and unit A has a P4 2GHz w/ 512 L2 cache/ 400MHz FSM and hyperthreading. Unit B has a Celeron 2.4Ghz / 512 L2 cache/ 400FSM. Now from what I've read the Pentiums outshined the Celerons due to their higher L2 cache and buffering, otherwise the top shelf Celerons architecture is quite the same as the Pentium's. I could use an extra 'puter for testing software and maybe as a game server. I'm leaning towards the P4 but that faster Celeron has be wondering about its potential. I've seen some pretty slick running PCs with higher end Celerons in them running some demanding games with ease. What do you think? Be factual and not subjective.
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Old 19th May 2008, 03:57 AM   (permalink)
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2GHz and 2.4GHz processors are pretty old. My computer is an old antique that is about 2.5 years old and it is a Pentium4 2.93GHz that I bought brand new for nearly nothing.
Today its value is almost zero but it works perfectly.
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Old 19th May 2008, 04:42 AM   (permalink)
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I'd take the hyperthreading P4 over the non hypertherading one.
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Old 19th May 2008, 05:21 AM   (permalink)
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My 2.93GHz P4 was made about when hyperthreading was introduced. Some sites say my processor has it and other sites says it doesn't. Who cares because it works fine.

I don't think the older processors mentioned have hyperthreading.
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Old 19th May 2008, 05:45 AM   (permalink)
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You've them both anyway so why not test it out

my computer at home is a P4 celeron 1.7 GHzzzzzzz and does all the things do on it OK (i am not a gamer)

my work laptop is a duo core 2GHz and what i do on it is done as quick as that my computer it does at home (exept uploading drawings in auto CAD, laptop is a bit quicker)

A friend of my has a quadcore and developt web software and he say it's worth for him to have one for testing but otherwise if you see the difference in for example EXEL

0.00002 sec for one switch or 0.00003 for a switch in the program

it depents more wat you want to do with it

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Old 19th May 2008, 05:52 AM   (permalink)
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I have a computer test program. It measures the time for the computer to calculate the value of pi to many decimal places. My old 486 pc took much longer than my P4.
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Old 19th May 2008, 06:37 AM   (permalink)
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Could you send me the program, just interested in running it myself
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Old 19th May 2008, 07:20 AM   (permalink)
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I've just bought a P4 2.8Ghz Dell with a 17" LCD monitor for £80 ($160) off Ebay. Its good enough for the kids to bum around on and frees up the newer machine to "retire" as a Ubuntu Server running a MythTv backend with 1Tb storage.
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Old 19th May 2008, 01:07 PM   (permalink)
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The P4 with hyperthreading would be my choice.
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Old 19th May 2008, 02:23 PM   (permalink)
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My 2.93GHz P4 was made about when hyperthreading was introduced. Some sites say my processor has it and other sites says it doesn't. Who cares because it works fine.

I don't think the older processors mentioned have hyperthreading.
Control-alt-delete will show two CPUs if you have hyperthreading.
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Old 19th May 2008, 03:19 PM   (permalink)
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2GHz and 2.4GHz processors are pretty old. My computer is an old antique that is about 2.5 years old and it is a Pentium4 2.93GHz that I bought brand new for nearly nothing.
Today its value is almost zero but it works perfectly.
The P4 is considered a respectable processor, still worthy of being put to many uses. Yes, it is seeing its eventual demise with all the other newer processors on the market, but it does hold its own! It's a very stable processor and interfaced with XP Pro makes for a very stable computing platform, compared to a hot running dual core and Vista's nonsense. I have sold used P4 systems for $150 U.S. with ease -- that's a lot more than "almost zero"! If you look closer at Intel and AMD, you will see that a good many of their current processors are in the range of 2.2GHz to 2.8GHz and when you enter the 3GHz and up, prices change considerably... and then drastically for the Extreme processors!
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Old 19th May 2008, 03:52 PM   (permalink)
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Boo hoo (crying),
My Penium4 2.93GHz processor does not have hyperthreading.

Hi Gramo,
I can't attach my program here.
Look for Super Pi in Google. My pc does 2M in 1 minute, 43 seconds. I have only 512M of RAM.
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Old 19th May 2008, 04:30 PM   (permalink)
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1 minute 53 seconds on my cheapo 1.73 Ghz Intel Celeron Laptop with 2Gb Ram and Vista for 2 million whatevers
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Old 19th May 2008, 04:36 PM   (permalink)
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Control-alt-delete will show two CPUs if you have hyperthreading.
What on earth? HOw come I never noticed that there were two CPU process Windows for my Core 2 Duo until now?
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Old 19th May 2008, 06:09 PM   (permalink)
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I think the Quad core and Duo with hyperthreading show 4 CPUs. (I've not tested it I only have a 3GHz hyperthreading P4)
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