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Old 25th April 2008, 09:49 PM   (permalink)
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At hotmail now I have 5Gb of storage, which is usually about only 2% used. I use the account a lot, but not for the big file exchanges that I guess are big with the kids nowadays. A couple years ago I ran into trouble with their 10MB file attachment limit, but maybe that's gone up since then?

What do you get at g-mail? We could all cash in by starting a real spitting contest here between the biggies!
20MB, according to the help file. Although it does say that this changes depending on the type of the attachment (but does not elaborate). I don't hit the limit because I don't really move large files using email.

I'll pass on the Hotmail-vs-GMail flame war, enticing though it is*.


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Old 25th April 2008, 10:49 PM   (permalink)
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I got Rogers high-speed cable internet.
Occasionally I get an e-mail saying that Rogers/Yahoo has detected a virus and removed the attachment containing it. Then they tell me to inform the party who sent it but their name is also deleted.

Soon Rogers will charge an extra amount from people who exceed a certain bandwidth. I hardly ever download or upload a DVD so I won't pay any more than now.
I have inexpensive high-speed Lite which is still pretty fast.
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Old 25th April 2008, 11:18 PM   (permalink)
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Trick is your email address would end in xxxx@rogers.com, I would like mine to end with xxxx@blueroomelectronics.com
It was working till about a week ago. I'm using gmail in the meantime and it's working fine.

I wonder who xxxx is

Both Gmail & Hotmail work fine, I've used both. I want my own domain email.
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Old 25th April 2008, 11:23 PM   (permalink)
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What do you get at g-mail?
Well, for one you get Google's positive reputation. That was enough for me. But, if that isn't enough for you, then there is also over 6gigs of storage. There are no dumb advertisements (including those gay ass similes that make noise when you put your mouse over them), and no anoying pop ups. The online viewer doesn't take six hours to load, and everything is fairly instant, even on my VERY slow connection. There is also Google's VERY powerful search engine to help you find those important emails.
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Old 25th April 2008, 11:37 PM   (permalink)
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Trick is your email address would end in xxxx@rogers.com, I would like mine to end with xxxx@blueroomelectronics.com
It was working till about a week ago. I'm using gmail in the meantime and it's working fine.

I wonder who xxxx is

Both Gmail & Hotmail work fine, I've used both. I want my own domain email.
Bill,

If your email handler (Point Clark, it looks like--is that a colo box you control or just a hosted site they admin?) lets you redirect it then it's easy; just map it to the GMail account. If Point Clark lets you use POP to access email, then you can set up GMail to access your email from there as if it were a regular desktop POP client (Settings => Accounts => Get mail from other accounts).

Then your blueroomelectronics.com emails will come to your GMail account.


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[Edit: I guess your email could be read to mean you already did this. If so then ignore me. ]

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Old 26th April 2008, 01:12 AM   (permalink)
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Point Clark uses POSTFIX for the email server.

I have setup my email client to work with it and it works fine. I simply would rather be @blueroomelectronics.com
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Old 26th April 2008, 02:45 AM   (permalink)
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Point Clark uses POSTFIX for the email server.

I have setup my email client to work with it and it works fine. I simply would rather be @blueroomelectronics.com
OK, I'm missing something. What exactly is stopping you
from "being" @blueroomelectronics.com? Do you mean when you send
email it should appear to come from @blueroomelectronics.com but
doesn't? Or that emails sent to @blueroomelectronics.com should
come to you? Or something else? You can do both of the above
using GMail.

GMail also lets you get around the outbound SMTP port 25
block. Shaw.ca (my ISP) blocks port 25 outbound, so I configured
my local postfix to use smtp.gmail.com on port 587 with SASL
authentication. Works like a charm. I think you might need to
sign up for the Google Docs thing to change your From: header to
appear to come from @blueroomelectronics.com, but maybe
not. Haven't tried it. But you can make email from the web
interface appear to come from any email address you can receive
email at.

I'm pretty sure you can get set up to work around the hyperactive
ISP filters to appear to the world as @blueroomelectronics.com
and let the rest of the world email you back as
blueroomelectronics.com. I guess I just don't know which you mean
when you say you want to "be" @blueroomelectronics.com.


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Old 26th April 2008, 05:43 AM   (permalink)
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Thanks Torben, I'll give it a try. Just not sure how to set it up.
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Old 26th April 2008, 06:11 AM   (permalink)
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Thanks Torben, I'll give it a try. Just not sure how to set it up.
It's all under Settings|Accounts, as far as sending from the GMail interface as @blueroomelectronics.com and setting up Gmail to fetch POP mail from your usual mail server goes. I'd set up the POP mail fetcher first, since when you set up the "Send mail as. . ." it will need to send a verification email to the @blueroomelectronics.com address you enter.

If you get stuck PM me.


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Well I started reading this and went to sleep
http://souptonuts.sourceforge.net/postfix_tutorial.html
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Old 27th April 2008, 06:47 AM   (permalink)
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Well I started reading this and went to sleep
http://souptonuts.sourceforge.net/postfix_tutorial.html
It's pretty dry reading. You should've seen what sendmail was like.

What OS are you running? I just went through the setup so I might be able to give you a shortcut.


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Old 27th April 2008, 06:51 AM   (permalink)
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It's Clark Connect home on the server, my machine is XP
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It's Clark Connect home on the server, my machine is XP
What is your email client? I should've asked that before. Anyway, that setup document is for Linux so at least you got some sleep out of the deal.


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Outlook express. But my email server in a linux box.
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Outlook express. But my email server in a linux box.
OK. Do you have openssl installed on the linux server? What distro do you run?

I followed that document you posted to get mine set up but here's what I learned:

Make sure openssl is installed and follow the steps for generating your certificate. Make sure you go to http://www.thawte.com/roots/ and download the root certificates. I unzipped mine into '/etc/ssl/certs', resulting in '/etc/ssl/Thawte_Personal_Basic_CA.pem' and several other files and directories being added.

The installation document refers to the file sasl_password, but I created a new directory under /etc/postfix for sasl: /etc/postfix/sasl, and just created a file called 'password' in that directory which contains the text:

Code:
[smtp.gmail.com]:587 myname@gmail.com:mypassword
Then I ran:

Code:
% postmap /etc/postfix/sasl/password
. . .which generated the file '/etc/postfix/sasl/password.db'

Then I modified my '/etc/postfix/main.cf' to include the following:

Code:
relayhost = [smtp.gmail.com]:587
smtp_use_tls = yes
smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes
smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl/password
smtp_sasl_security_options =
smtpd_sasl_local_domain =
smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated,permit_mynetworks,reject_unauth_destination
smtpd_tls_auth_only = no
#smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/ssl/certs/cacert.pem                                                                                                                                         
smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/cacert.pem
After that, I ran '/etc/init.d/postfix restart' and it worked. Of course I tried more than once before it worked but the above is the setup which is running right now.


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