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Old 18th April 2008, 08:59 PM   (permalink)
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Sort of reminds me a the post title "I am the most important...".

It takes many disciplines to make the world work. Modern farm machinery are packed with electronics. The electronis run programs written by CS types and ag engineers. The electronics are in machines designed by mechanical engineers. The parts are machined from metal from mines and processed in a foundry. The machines are operated by farmers....

To say one is more important then the other is wrong.
Yes but electrical is by far the superior and most important. and dont get me started on our infinite contributions to mankind.
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The argument of Who Is Most Important often gets resolved when the garbage collectors go on strike.
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The argument of Who Is Most Important often gets resolved when the garbage collectors go on strike.


i just dont view music as important in our education system. its a nice little hobby dont get me wrong, but not important in ones educational experience.

kids today in america at least, are being flung into worthless classes-home economics, music, history, literature. all of these have nothing to do with making it in the real world.

our kids need the maths and sciences and then apply them to engineering to become a truly contributing member of society. music imho, is just a nice extracurricular activity but hardly something of merit.
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But without music, history, and literature classes. You would find a dangerously low number of people getting liberal arts degrees and filling the much needed postitions in groccery stores, fastfood resturants and as garbage men/women.
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But without music, history, and literature classes. You would find a dangerously low number of people getting liberal arts degrees and filling the much needed postitions in groccery stores, fastfood resturants and as garbage men/women.

Would you like to super size that?

There are plenty of jokes keyed to your statement. I couldn't disagree more about the value in total of the fine arts. We would not be human without the arts. It is the fabric of human society dating back at least 25,000 years. John
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Would you like to super size that?

There are plenty of jokes keyed to your statement. I couldn't disagree more about the value in total of the fine arts. We would not be human without the arts. It is the fabric of human society dating back at least 25,000 years. John
well, yeah i see your point. however, the american school systems lack the science and math background to compete with foreign schools. for instance, quite a number of indian schools have english as a compulsory language. chemistry, physics, algebra, geometry are electives rather than greek poetry and henry david thoreau.

im gonna be blunt. i graduated from purdue with a 3.8 gpa mastering in electromagnetics and optics. music and literature hasnt done shit for me!
but the maths and sciences insured my plpace in the industry.

i will admit though i am a history buff, but only so becoz its a hobby of mine.
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Yes but electrical is by far the superior and most important. and dont get me started on our infinite contributions to mankind.
This is going to be fun!

Without the research done by physicists EE's would not even have laden jars to play with.
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Without the research done by physicists EE's would not even have laden jars to play with.
Without literacy, there'd be no keyboards to type with.

Without music, there'd be significantly less content for any electronic media. Arguably, there would never have been the economic impetus for most electronic communications if there hadn't been music (i.e. content).

Speaking of economics, there'd be no people or homes (and consequently, electrical sockets) if it weren't for home economics. Teaching people how to use the most powerful electronic equipment in most of their homes (stoves, washers, sewing machines) just seems like a good idea to me.

Sharing history is a good way to remember that the best efforts of men are of an anthropological nature. The humanities, whether formally or informally understood, define the perogatives of electronics or any other media.

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The people who are most important to society are considered to be the least important. Electrical Engineers are low on the list of importance to the Human race.
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The people who are most important to society are considered to be the least important. Electrical Engineers are low on the list of importance to the Human race.
What about Garbage men, at least here they are seen as very important and are very important in both society and to the human race.
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What about Garbage men, at least here they are seen as very important and are very important in both society and to the human race.
I guess it's one of those things where you only notice it when it stops working...like your heart, lungs, eyes or kindneys. I guess that means they're doing their job right?
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I guess it's one of those things where you only notice it when it stops working...like your heart, lungs, eyes or kindneys. I guess that means they're doing their job right?
well yeah. everyone does have a purpose. from the barrista at starbucks to the garabge man that picks up the maggot infested trash bin, to the firemen who play xbox 360 all day to the noble Rf engineer that works on an antenna system that tracks incoming aircraft to the doctor that milks people out of their insurance premiums.

music, history and literature, imho had nothing to do with my success. only math and science did and the most important of all, the lord jesus christ. so if you want music, then we should bring christianity back to schools. otherwise away with music! and thats comin from a degreed Purdue RF engineer!
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music, history and literature, imho had nothing to do with my success. only math and science did and the most important of all, the lord jesus christ. so if you want music, then we should bring christianity back to schools. otherwise away with music! and thats comin from a degreed Purdue RF engineer!
I don't think religion has any place in schools. From my own experience I can tell, that the religion oriented guys were always the worst ones. I regard religion the same as politics, which currently is not though in schools (besides political oriented collages ofcourse).

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