dknguyen

Music's not worthless. Do you know how hard the musicians in fine arts have to work to get in and stay there? Probably harder than anyone else on campus. You can half-ass your way through a lot of programs (like most academic degrees, engineering included- it's called cramming and some people are very very good at it) but anyone who is in music is downright dedicated.

I used to think like that too until I actively pursued playing an instrument. I still hold the same opinion about drawing artists though.

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Nigel Goodwin

Like all the people here posting wanting their homework or coursework doing for them - can't do that for a music exam!.

My daughter's currently doing A level 'Music Technology', this includes Midi sequencing, studio sound recording etc. - basically the technology behind modern music. I don't 'think' you have to be able to play an instrument?, but it's a big advantage - because you've got to write music, rearrange existing songs in different styles, and record them. So if you can't play yourself, then you have to arrange for someone else to play on the recordings for you - which isn't always easy.

Melissa's got a big advantage (which is why she's top of the class), as she's already a qualified recording engineer, she reads music, and she plays six+ instruments. Her friend Charlie (guitarist in her band) is second in the class, he's also a qualified recording engineer, but doesn't read music, and probably plays four+ instruments.

I don't think the course is living up to their expectations though, as it's far too slow for them - with the rest of the class struggling somewhat.

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Perhaps is you learned to draw, paint, an or sculpt.

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dknguyen

Perhaps! But I am an imperfect person.

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UTMonkey

I agree with Nigel, the latest recommendation from our Education wizards in the UK is that every child should receive a dose of "Culture" education - bring on Music\Art\Drama!

I have always been interested in classical guitar and always been interested in electronics (even when I was at school)

I am 37 now, I started guitar lessons at 19 and have now only just started electronics. Why didn't the UK education system support these interests?

But I suppose hearing the comments in this thread it is only good if it can be sustained.

better to have and to have lost? nope!

Mark

dknguyen

I disagree. THe reason I started music so late was because I was forced to take a CRAPPY music class in elementary school which completely turned me off from instruments, singing, and even listening to music in general for years and years and years to come (about 6 years or so). Terrible rules and we were not allowed to pick our instruments and were FORCED to use recorders which was terrible because the notes were not intuitive (and I know I'm not the only one that though this). All the different unrelated finger combinations for different notes rather than pianos, xylophones, guitars, or stringed instruments where it's "one more finger on is one note higher".

Only do it if you're going to do it right, or else don't waste money to do more damage by not doing it at all.

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killivolt

I believe music, art, new language etc.

Can help to aid anyone at anytime in life.

This will trick the brain to build more neurons. In addition it builds them in a way that allows the brain to develop skills in area's not common to a known environment.

eg electronics ?

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dknguyen

Yes, like impressing girls. Not sure why this stuff is any different than engineering though, but it's the only reason I have non-engineering related activities.

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UTMonkey

I am not sure you are disagreeing with me, what you are saying is your school tried it, made it dull and uninteresting and that turned you off.

It is to your credit that you are self-actualised enough to not let that turn you off learning music at all.

quixotron

I disagree. the natzis executed musicians becoz they werent "essential" workers. on top of that, how the hell do you grade a musician? you look at his notes and compositions or something? thats just foolish.

i like listening to music, but i dont consider it an art or actual work. its a hobby. the musicians exist becoz of us anyways! kids dont need hobbies! they need skills and education that will make them marketable in the industry. learning to play the bassoon is not going to pay my bills or contribute to society.

but an electronics class or a skill in ham radio will. thats how i got my job in the aerosppace industry, i was actually asked about my credentials a s a ham operator. not whats my favorite color or who do i think is better mozart or beethoven. thats just nonsense!

electrical engineering is the most important and noble of all sciences. w/o it, we would be stuck in the dark ages! hunting for food, gathering and whatnot!

Nigel Goodwin

All those super rich musicians must just be pretending to be rich!

Even disregarding 'super rich' ones, there are a massive number of people world wide who make their living from performing music.

Stupid thing to disagree with in an electronics forum, as a LOT of electronics is to do with the recording and performance of music.

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aaah so you do believe in evil-ution ................. just kidding

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dknguyen

The Aggies at my university would disagree with you. THeir faculty quote is "Without us, you'd be starving, homeless, and naked." WHen I read that it really made me think.

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Most of the art related professions have a few at the top making big money with a hoard of people who have a "day job" or drop out altogether. Most artists who have not made it need that day job.

In the past one major problem was the musicians received a small percentage from the sale of their work. Now that they can market themselves and their music on the internet that may change / (is changing?). Do not know hope so.

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Sort of reminds me a the post title "I am the most important...".

It takes many disciplines to make the world work. Modern farm machinery are packed with electronics. The electronis run programs written by CS types and ag engineers. The electronics are in machines designed by mechanical engineers. The parts are machined from metal from mines and processed in a foundry. The machines are operated by farmers....

To say one is more important then the other is wrong.

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