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Old 21st March 2008, 09:54 PM   (permalink)
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(I just herd on the radio) a Boomerang in space thrown by an Astronaut then comes back to him ?
Can anyone explain this when it's a vacuum. Or are there some residual gases that it can act against ?



Thank you in advance, kv
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Old 21st March 2008, 09:58 PM   (permalink)
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Is this hypothetical? Because I don't think the astronauts would throw anything in space since it makes space junk (and sends them flying in the opposite direction).

But even then...I personally didn't think it would return since there's no air and a boomerang works a bit like a wing. Could it have something to do with precession?
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Old 21st March 2008, 10:06 PM   (permalink)
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It depends.

If it was inside a space shuttle then yes, it would come back to him, as it's filled with air.

If it was outside in space then it wouldn't, since the aerodynamics wouldn't work as there's no air.
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Old 21st March 2008, 10:55 PM   (permalink)
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Sure, but he didn't say at what speed. Maybe he threw it at something less than the escape velocity from a very fat astronaut?

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Old 21st March 2008, 10:56 PM   (permalink)
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[quote=dknguyen]Is this hypothetical?

Just someone making a comment on the radio saying

QUOTE = He did it and it did come back ?

Outside or Inside they didn't say.
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Old 21st March 2008, 10:59 PM   (permalink)
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I googled it
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/national/news...na016000c.html
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Old 21st March 2008, 10:59 PM   (permalink)
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A second thought. I suspect if the astronaut was in orbit and threw it at exactly the right angle, it would fall back to him/her.

Edit: So, he was inside in an atmosphere.

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Old 21st March 2008, 11:06 PM   (permalink)
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[quote=jpanhalt]Sure, but he didn't say at what speed. Maybe he threw it at something less than the escape velocity from a very fat astronaut?

lol What an image
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Old 21st March 2008, 11:11 PM   (permalink)
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According to the article, it was inside the International Space Station which is pressurised.

What surprises me is that he's 53. I didn't know they sent people over 40 odd up there.
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Old 21st March 2008, 11:27 PM   (permalink)
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It was his boomerang and if they didn't let him throw it, he would take it and go home. Besides people are fatter after 40.
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Old 22nd March 2008, 08:12 AM   (permalink)
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If you were in space and threw anything, boomerang, spanner, feather etc, at 90° to your direction of travel then you will meet it again on the other side of the earth. As both you and the object are doing great circles your paths will cross twice per orbit.

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Old 23rd March 2008, 03:23 AM   (permalink)
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As both you and the object are doing great circles your paths will cross twice per orbit.
If the object has the same mass as you, and your initial velocity is 0. If it has a much lower mass, it will do many orbits and pass you several times before you do one. Thrown at a tangent to your orbit, I would also expect the radius of the object's orbit to consequently become somewhat greater than the thrower's own orbit.

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If you were in space and threw anything, boomerang, spanner, feather etc, at 90° to your direction of travel then you will meet it again on the other side of the earth.
I presume you mean 180 degrees (by the way, how do make the degree symbol?)? Thrown at 90 degrees and a tangent to the orbit, and given the variables related to momentum I've already mentioned, it's most likely that the orbits of the object and the thrower will never simultaneously intersect.

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Old 23rd March 2008, 03:30 AM   (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Hank Fletcher
I presume you mean 180 degrees (by the way, how do make the degree symbol
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Old 23rd March 2008, 03:41 AM   (permalink)
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That doesn't seem to work. Maybe because I'm on my laptop?
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Old 23rd March 2008, 03:50 AM   (permalink)
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Are you Windows? Do you hold the ALT key while hitting the 0176 on the keypad? The ° should appear when you release the alt key. John
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