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View Poll Results: Which option suit you best?
I use Windows and Hate it a lot.. 8 36.36%
I use Windows and Love it.. 10 45.45%
I use Linux and Love it 5 22.73%
I use Linux only because Windows is too expensive 0 0%
I use some other Operating System 2 9.09%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 14th March 2008, 12:43 PM   (permalink)
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Tell us what operating system you use and how you feel about it
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Old 14th March 2008, 01:43 PM   (permalink)
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For what machine

Server #1 It has to be linux it is a 133MHz ARM board with 32meg of RAM (like hell you would get windows on that) NSLU2 is the product, very nice

Server #2 (main server) it is linux and it is up 24/7 acting as home NAS,HTTPD,FTP,SSH,... like hell I would trust windows for my server or with my Data

Desktop: Has Gentoo Linux as the OS cause well its too damb configurable and fun to work with. Why linux tho? because
1) stability
2) I want to use MY hardware for MY usage and NOT feed an inneficient OS ( I mean FFS you need 2Gig of RAM for Vista to start to become Usable and while I do have 4Gig of RAM only 100Meg of that is for the OS - Openbox FTW meaning the rest of the RAM and CPU-time can be used for gaming and simulations)
3) Customisation
4) If something goes wrong I can repair it (short of a filesystem corruption/harddisk crash). If a tiny bit of windows dies BOOM, re-install

This machine also Dual-boots to Windows-XP (more for those what-if cases and the odd couple of games that I can get working well in WINE)
Also on this machine there is 4x Virtual machine
#1 = Window2000 (I like this OS, nice and small and efficient so good for me to test windows things while still in linux)
#2 archlinux - More for a buildhost for my server #2 (which is arch )
#3 Ubuntu - more because I support a few friends and family on ubuntu so I kinda need to have it avail for those few specific ubuntu things
#4 Fedora - like above but for the work machines I support.
VM's are good for nice sandboxed testbeds

Laptop #1: eeePC - it boots in 5sec to the SLiM login screen for linux. Too nice

Laptop #2: Dualboot XP and Ubuntu (mainly XP for wife)
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Old 14th March 2008, 04:32 PM   (permalink)
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Main work machine (laptop): Dual-boot Ubuntu 7.10 and Vista, but Vista hasn't been booted in months. Also currently runs Red Hat Linux in a VM.

Studio machine: dual-boot Ubuntu 7.10 and Windows XP.

Work servers: various flavours of Fedora and CentOS.

O/S Ratings:

Windows Vista: Garbage.
Windows 2000/XP: Good.
Ubuntu: Good.
Fedora: Not bad. (I'm a Debian fan, what can I say?)


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Old 14th March 2008, 04:52 PM   (permalink)
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WHere is "I use Linux and hate it?"
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Old 14th March 2008, 05:11 PM   (permalink)
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I don't love any operating system, I just want something that runs my apps.
I think XP, MAC OS & Linux desktops are all fine but XP runs the software I use.
Vista is bloatware, who's it for anyway?
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Old 14th March 2008, 05:23 PM   (permalink)
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WHere is "I use Linux and hate it?"
Lol Nice point out.....(did you really hate linux)

Well i dont think any body can give a reason to hate linux
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Old 14th March 2008, 05:25 PM   (permalink)
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I don't love any operating system, I just want something that runs my apps.
I think XP, MAC OS & Linux desktops are all fine but XP runs the software I use.
Agreed...except that at the moment, Linux runs the software I use. XP runs the studio software I use, so when I'm in recording/music mode I use that more often.

Depends on the job at hand. OS zealotry is just as annoying as religious zealotry, except fewer people die. (Disclaimer: I am a rehabilitated OS zealot myself).

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Vista is bloatware, who's it for anyway?
I think it was *supposed* to be good for Microsoft, and to hell with the rest of us. XP is an excellent upgrade from Vista.


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Old 14th March 2008, 05:26 PM   (permalink)
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Well I voted for "I use Windows and Hate it a lot.. " I just hate most things because I'm a bad tempered and an awkward sod. I have Windoze XP on this machine and the kids's two computers, I tried Vista on the laptop but hate it. I just can't be bothered to change it back to XP.

I like the sound of Linux but I fear the hassle involved in acquiring all the necessary drivers etc for my hardware, It's the monopoly thing here for me, I hate windows because of the price and the fact that you just don't get an option when buying a new PC from 'PC World', But I'm just too damned lazy to research which other operation system will do all I want it to do after I have got used to using windows for so long.

If there was a version of Linux that installed and looked and worked like windows which had all the relevant settings in the same place then I'd pay for it just to pee off Microsoft. I'm just lazy and can't be bothered to look if I am honest, Maybe there is a version out there!

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Old 14th March 2008, 05:31 PM   (permalink)
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Have any one used "Wine" in linux. It runs most of the the windows application in Linux..Cool
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Old 14th March 2008, 05:31 PM   (permalink)
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Lol Nice point out.....(did you really hate linux)

Well i dont think any body can give a reason to hate linux
I disagree--there is much about Linux that is not perfect. For one thing, I hate how the Gnome folks treat their userbase like a gaggle of idiots. I still (mostly) like and use Gnome, though. And I've been using Linux since 1993. It's amazing, don't get me wrong, and I used to think it was perfect--until I realized it isn't. It just suits me better most of the time than anything else available.

That said, Linux isn't for everyone. Neither is any other OS. It's good to have a valid choice these days, though. Ten years ago it looked like there might never be a choice again.


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Old 14th March 2008, 05:33 PM   (permalink)
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Have any one used "Wine" in linux. It runs most of the the windows application in Linux..Cool
It's pretty cool all right but doesn't solve all problems. Many games are problematic; Google Sketchup doesn't work properly, and so on. But for many things yes, wine does the job just fine. Not high-end studio software, though. Not yet, anyway.


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Old 14th March 2008, 06:30 PM   (permalink)
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I'm thinking of setting up a dual boot on one of my laptops but I have a few questions, but let me explain why first.

I use matlab almost exclusively for work, and I run it on a windows vista machine. I don't have any complaints it'll handle some fairly big simulations in a reasonable amount of time. But if changing to a dual boot and running matlab in linux would allow me to run larger simulations faster, even a 20% time savings would be huge. A time savings like 50% would be more motovation though.

So my question is, would matlab run any faster in linux and be able to run larger simulations? I generally run into memory constraints, I have 2gb of ram, but its apparently not large enough to handle a 900x600x300 complex matrix. Although, I haven't found a machine that could. I would be willing to add more ram to my laptop if that would help linux (or windows for that matter) in any way.
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Old 14th March 2008, 06:46 PM   (permalink)
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I'm thinking of setting up a dual boot on one of my laptops but I have a few questions, but let me explain why first.

I use matlab almost exclusively for work, and I run it on a windows vista machine. I don't have any complaints it'll handle some fairly big simulations in a reasonable amount of time. But if changing to a dual boot and running matlab in linux would allow me to run larger simulations faster, even a 20% time savings would be huge. A time savings like 50% would be more motovation though.

So my question is, would matlab run any faster in linux and be able to run larger simulations? I generally run into memory constraints, I have 2gb of ram, but its apparently not large enough to handle a 900x600x300 complex matrix. Although, I haven't found a machine that could. I would be willing to add more ram to my laptop if that would help linux (or windows for that matter) in any way.
More memory! It's the single easiest and cheapest way to speed things up in many cases. Of course, you have to make sure your motherboard and OS can handle more; not all can. If yours is relatively decent the mobo should be fine, and Vista can handle more than 2GB RAM. So can Linux.

Also, Vista wastes memory like nobody's business. With Linux you can run a much more lightweight interface, and kill almost everything not matlab-related if you need to. You might also have better luck just by switching to XP or 2000, but Linux is cheaper and more configurable.


Good luck!

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Old 14th March 2008, 07:19 PM   (permalink)
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Have a look at this
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/434675..._ubuntu_beryl/
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Old 14th March 2008, 08:02 PM   (permalink)
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I have 2000 on my home desktop and XP on my work laptop. For my interests, I find the differences between the two to be inconsequent. Adobe Audition and Sibelius work fine on both, as do the drivers and mic interfacing equipment I use. No problems with my USB ICD2 or MPLAB, either.

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I think it was *supposed* to be good for Microsoft, and to hell with the rest of us. XP is an excellent upgrade from Vista.
I noticed recently (two weeks ago or so) that XP had returned as an option for OS on a new Dell computer, after a hiatus during which Vista was the only choice. I guess Vista's reputation must really be effecting the market? I know I've been reluctant to upgrade from my PIII-1GHz because I couldn't find somewhere that would sell me a computer without Vista. I can't justify buying a computer that's incompatible with everything else in my life!

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