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Thunderchild · 14th February 2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ambient

They should evacuate all the civilians and nuke whatever is left. Problem solved.

I quite agree but where are the victims going to go ? how come of all the "humanely" targeted missiles at sadams palace strangely missed ? oh yes they were certainly humanely targeted as in at humanity not the real objective and no I'm not just repeating what I heard on the movie I'm talking about what I heard day after day on the news "oh another missile missed killed 10s of inocent people 100s more wounded (it goes without saying that these people are getting p!ssed of with america/bush)" if sadam was the only objective it could have been over sooner A) with a stealth murder B) just target the damn missile to hit we know Mr. bush that your envolved in a weapons company but killing people so that you earn money on the weapons they are killed with makes you a terrorist, infact no different from bin laden,

by the way I'm starting to see a lot of "moore lied" "moore lied" ok fine I accept he may have pray tell what were these lies and what is the truth instead ? I'm not defending him I just want to know if his were lies what is the truth (its certainly not what I read in the media)

Thunderchild · 15th February 2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HiTech

Oh puuhleez - what a silly, baseless statement, further disgraced by your poor grammar... shame on you, especially from someone who lives in a region known the world over for its proper English! "You guys" didn't run off to war because of Bush and his personal agenda, it's a coalition, just like it was in Desert Storm. Go yell at Blair and Parliament if you disagree with the involvement. Last time I looked, I didn't see our navy towing your boats into the Gulf, nor were your soldiers stuffed into the belly of a C5 Galaxy and parachuted into urban front lines.

by the way a recent news hit over on our side of the pond:

A muslim pilot was arrested WE arrested him because the FBI (america) told us to because he trained the 9/11 attackers, WE held him for 4 months in prison while the FBI ran around looking for the evidence they said they had already but hadn't even collected yet. The man gets proven inocent and now has the right to claim millions in compensation, which goverment do you think is going to end up compensating him ?

Pommie · 15th February 2008, 06:00 PM

You need to chill.

This started as TVs and ended as "the whole world is my responsibility"

Relax and enjoy life. It doesn't last long.

Mike.
I'll send some karma.

Thunderchild · 15th February 2008, 06:06 PM

hehe wish some matters were my responsability the people handling certain matters need the sh!t kicking out of them.

Hero999 · 15th February 2008, 06:10 PM

It seems that we can't have a light hearted conversation here before it turns to a super serious debate.

Hank Fletcher · 16th February 2008, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hero999

It seems that we can't have a light hearted conversation here before it turns to a super serious debate.

To balance it out, I did my best to trivialize your "Is there a god?" debate.

HiTech · 16th February 2008, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank Fletcher

I'm not sure armchair pundits realize how much their bravery as people who have no intention or fitness for entering combat themselves is disrespectful to real soldiers. Put up or shut up.

Is this directed at me? If so I don't follow you completely. Besides, it's a volunteer military here in the states. Given the situation of world affairs over the past decade and a half, one should've weighed the risks of battle engagement before joining the military. As for Canada, the same goes-- we didn't throw a rope around you and drag you along. Somewhere in the mix, your gov. signed on. This isn't a slam towards any soldier battling in the fields or air regardless of what nation they are from. My point is to clarify that if anyone (Thunderchild in this case) should look to their own gov. offiicials first for getting involved before placing the whole blame on one man (Pres. Bush).

HiTech · 16th February 2008, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunderchild

by the way a recent news hit over on our side of the pond:

A muslim pilot was arrested WE arrested him because the FBI (america) told us to because he trained the 9/11 attackers, WE held him for 4 months in prison while the FBI ran around looking for the evidence they said they had already but hadn't even collected yet. The man gets proven inocent and now has the right to claim millions in compensation, which goverment do you think is going to end up compensating him ?

If I told you that everyone around you is jumping off of cliffs, would you do it? If I informed you that your neighbor was maliciously plotting against you would you go off half cocked and turn militant without researching the issue yourself? Hell, I live here and I don't believe some of the stories and facts that our high-end law enforcement agencies spew forth. You chaps should've done some homework for yourselves first. Pay up!

Hank Fletcher · 16th February 2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HiTech

Is this directed at me? If so I don't follow you completely. Besides, it's a volunteer military here in the states. Given the situation of world affairs over the past decade and a half, one should've weighed the risks of battle engagement before joining the military.

Yes, it is. You should try to follow me, as completely as possible. You obviously don't have the capacity for reasoning things of this complexity and sensitivity yourself. If people only joined the army based on your reasoning (e.g. when they're not needed), only cowards would join the army.

Also, current methods of recruitment in the U.S. betray your theory that your military is voluntary. As I've already alluded, the U.S. recruitment process for soldiers is one that preys on indigent, under-educated, young people. To outsiders (i.e. non-U.S. nations), it appears as if your nation's organized to keep a certain percentage of its population poor and incapable specifically for the purpose of taking advantage of those people as cheap labour or to do the jobs no one else would want to do (e.g. die in Iraq).

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This isn't a slam towards any soldier battling in the fields or air regardless of what nation they are from.

To the contrary, it is a slam, but I'm sure this isn't your intention, but rather just a result of your own ignorance regarding the details of your opinion. Your attitude is also grossly disrespectful to brave veterans who have volunteered to risk their lives in the interest of ending global suffering. Many of these volunteers, such as Canadian soldiers in WWII as well as Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan today, volunteered not because there was an immediate threat to themselves, their community, or their nation, but rather they volunteered in the interest of ending suffering for people who are least capable of defending themselves.

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As for Canada, the same goes-- we didn't throw a rope around you and drag you along. Somewhere in the mix, your gov. signed on... My point is to clarify that if anyone (Thunderchild in this case) should look to their own gov. offiicials first for getting involved before placing the whole blame on one man (Pres. Bush).

Unlike the U.S., in Canada the military carries out missions based on the directives and intentions of the Canadian public. Our government decides to involve our nation in conflicts based on the expectation that each conflict will be resolved in a timely manner, and with the best possible outcome for all parties.

Contrarily, the U.S. carries out military missions for the primary purpose of fueling the American economy. They do this through old-school imperialism (i.e. invading a nation to take its resources) and through design of their domestic economy (i.e. creating jobs in industries dedicated to military production).

I'm constantly surprised at the extent to which the U.S. and Americans erroneously believe they are above reprimand for the actions/inactions of their nation. If it makes you feel better, I've never exclusively blamed one president for the shortcomings of your nation - you're all at fault. You can't claim to be a democracy and hide behind your military dictator as an excuse for when your nation goes astray.

Thunderchild · 16th February 2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HiTech

If I told you that everyone around you is jumping off of cliffs, would you do it? If I informed you that your neighbor was maliciously plotting against you would you go off half cocked and turn militant without researching the issue yourself? Hell, I live here and I don't believe some of the stories and facts that our high-end law enforcement agencies spew forth. You chaps should've done some homework for yourselves first. Pay up!

OK so put it that the UK refused to arrest the man and detain him for 4 months, what do you think that would have done to international relations, we are supposed to be able to trust our allies and work on a common understanding not that if I come along as an allied secret service agency and say that mans guilty I have the proof when I don't and then I blame you. So basically according to you to put it in a nutshell (thats about as far as you understand judging from your simplistic comparison) the UK from now on must say THE FBI ARE A BUNCH OF LIARS AND WE WILL NO LONGER COOPERATE, DO WHAT THEY RECOMEND OR SAY ! of course this means that if the FBI ever did turn up with real evidence we wouldn't believe them and allow a criminal / terrorist to escape.... remember the story of the boy that called wolf ?

HerbertMunch · 18th February 2008, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunderchild

me too I don't care for size....

Half of U.K. men would swap sex for 50-inch TV
I don't mind big screens, i mean i just wouldn't swap!

Thunderchild · 18th February 2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HerbertMunch

Half of U.K. men would swap sex for 50-inch TV
I don't mind big screens, i mean i just wouldn't swap!

yea me neither

Dawny · 18th February 2008, 12:47 PM

I'm confused... was I the only one who thought "Half of U.K. men would swap sex for 50-inch TV" meant they would become women?

Okay it's not been a good week for me...

Thunderchild · 18th February 2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dawny

I'm confused... was I the only one who thought "Half of U.K. men would swap sex for 50-inch TV" meant they would become women?

Okay it's not been a good week for me...

lol yea I have to say sometimes I wonder what it would be like to be able to make ALL the decisions and have it my way every time

HiTech · 23rd February 2008, 10:36 PM

Hank - You are misinformed about the American military and it's volunteer draft, if you will. There are plenty of well educated and "normal" peeps in the service. The recruiters do not prey upon the indigent as you state. The so called indigents may be from low income/poor educational backgrounds, but that's because they view the military as a way out of their situation that could provide pay, benefits and opportunities afterwards. In fact their best recruits are from colleges and high school ROTC. Get your facts straight. I am not ignorant about such things as you may put forth. It should be a clear reality to any potential recruit that if they choose to join for whatever reasons, they face the possibility of facing battle. That's not a slam against any soldier-- just a fact of what to expect when one joins the military. In fact it signals just the opposite- one of bravery to choose to enlist regardless of world situations. How does that make me unintentionally ignorant? My so called ignorance that you claim, is your opinion and not based on objectiveness. Your comment about American Imperialism makes you sound like a another common armchair whiner. I would agree that America appears to be moving in a direction of over- intrusion into world affairs in the name of democracy. Given that I feel democracy isn't for all world nations and unless they specifically ask for our involvement, we should remain sidelined. However, it is a coalition of nations at work in the Middle East and it's very clear that America didn't throw a rope around the governments of that coalition. Afterall, not all of them chose to participate-- look at Spain - it dropped out pretty damn quick when it was threatened.
As far as our "military dictator" goes, thare are plenty of upset citizens and gov. officials who are outrages with Bush's mandate for America. I'm not enthused about our diminishing stature in the world either, and my only remedial action is to research and vote for the next presidential candidate who I hope will reverse things for us along with a friendlier foreign policy. So don't blame the citizens... we vote officials into office then too often that person(s) turns 180 on us. It takes a lot to impeach a high level gov. official and even the Democratic run Congress didn't try it over these last couple of years.

Now stop fighting Thunderchild's battles for him - He's the one that took a funny and silly survey about UK men too personal as well as interjecting irrelevant American leadership into the issue. You're looking and acting just like my "Imperialistic" government!

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15th February 2008, 06:00 PM	(permalink)
Pommie	You need to chill. This started as TVs and ended as "the whole world is my responsibility" Relax and enjoy life. It doesn't last long. Mike. I'll send some karma.

15th February 2008, 06:06 PM	(permalink)
Thunderchild	hehe wish some matters were my responsability the people handling certain matters need the sh!t kicking out of them. __________________ I AM the exeption that disproves the rule in many ways but the rules still apply (unfortunately) my site:www.simons-photography.com http://rushdenrotaract.org.uk see also http://www.bigstockphoto.com/account...fid=m2URATYch5 http://www.redbubble.com/people/simonsphotography

15th February 2008, 06:10 PM	(permalink)
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18th February 2008, 12:47 PM	(permalink)
Dawny	I'm confused... was I the only one who thought "Half of U.K. men would swap sex for 50-inch TV" meant they would become women? Okay it's not been a good week for me...

23rd February 2008, 10:36 PM	(permalink)
HiTech	Hank - You are misinformed about the American military and it's volunteer draft, if you will. There are plenty of well educated and "normal" peeps in the service. The recruiters do not prey upon the indigent as you state. The so called indigents may be from low income/poor educational backgrounds, but that's because they view the military as a way out of their situation that could provide pay, benefits and opportunities afterwards. In fact their best recruits are from colleges and high school ROTC. Get your facts straight. I am not ignorant about such things as you may put forth. It should be a clear reality to any potential recruit that if they choose to join for whatever reasons, they face the possibility of facing battle. That's not a slam against any soldier-- just a fact of what to expect when one joins the military. In fact it signals just the opposite- one of bravery to choose to enlist regardless of world situations. How does that make me unintentionally ignorant? My so called ignorance that you claim, is your opinion and not based on objectiveness. Your comment about American Imperialism makes you sound like a another common armchair whiner. I would agree that America appears to be moving in a direction of over- intrusion into world affairs in the name of democracy. Given that I feel democracy isn't for all world nations and unless they specifically ask for our involvement, we should remain sidelined. However, it is a coalition of nations at work in the Middle East and it's very clear that America didn't throw a rope around the governments of that coalition. Afterall, not all of them chose to participate-- look at Spain - it dropped out pretty damn quick when it was threatened. As far as our "military dictator" goes, thare are plenty of upset citizens and gov. officials who are outrages with Bush's mandate for America. I'm not enthused about our diminishing stature in the world either, and my only remedial action is to research and vote for the next presidential candidate who I hope will reverse things for us along with a friendlier foreign policy. So don't blame the citizens... we vote officials into office then too often that person(s) turns 180 on us. It takes a lot to impeach a high level gov. official and even the Democratic run Congress didn't try it over these last couple of years. Now stop fighting Thunderchild's battles for him - He's the one that took a funny and silly survey about UK men too personal as well as interjecting irrelevant American leadership into the issue. You're looking and acting just like my "Imperialistic" government! __________________ Don't make me reach through this monitor to slap you a good one! Last edited by HiTech; 23rd February 2008 at 10:45 PM.