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Hank Fletcher · 8th February 2008, 05:08 PM

So to sum up Gaston's and Thunderchild's collective anticipations, we should test for cures to horrible diseases on nasty people (whoever they might be), preferably killing off the worst of them in the process. I'd suggest there's enough evidence that that's happening already - "hooligfans," through their various vices, tend to cull themselves, and in doing so, provide their bodies as test examples of what too much cigarettes, booze, loose sex, and bad diet can do to a person. Let 'em die out, and their parasitic industries with them, I say.

I think the goal of curing diseases that effect the most vulnerable of humanity is a noble one. Sometimes the solution to that sort of thing exists in more places than just under a microscope in a lab. I say it's a good initiative, but obviously much more imagination, and action, is still required.

Any other ideas out there? C'mon, how often does someone ask you what exactly it is you want?!

Thunderchild · 8th February 2008, 05:18 PM

yes I want the Skenar to be accepted by goverments and the medics and not ignored because it will put pharmaceutical businesses out of a job being a single electronic device that will cure anything, its been proven but have goverments allowed it to be accepted no WHY ? BECAUSE OF PROFIT
this can cure anything from impotence to cancer and of course headaches it works yes its like startreck medics machines but above all IT WORKS but is it released to the general public ? NO
its a couple of ICs (one probably a microcontroller) and a handfull of components and a LCD display you can have one if you like but the goverment won't say yes this cures bad stuff they will only say OOOOH it only cures pains. there are solutions to the worlds problems all around us but we don't turn to them because it is UNPROFITABLE.....

quixotron · 8th February 2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Fletcher

I was thinking about this just yesterday, but if I had my choice, I'd choose to be born in the mid-19th century, right on the frontier of computer programming and electronic exploration. And grossly over-engineered machines in all fields. My dad (not that he was around back then!) says things were overbuilt in the 19th century, because the idea back then was that if you're going to build something, you might as well build it to last forever. Not like the xbox 360s of today, which I'm told can barely outlive a 30-day warranty!

To be fair, that's comparing apples and oranges. What I really want to know is, why aren't we spending more time thinking up crazy stuff for the future now? Just twenty years ago (pre-cellphones-smaller-than-a-breadbox, pre-gameboy) the ubiquitous nature of cellphones, video games, tvs and DVDs like those in cars, and music players the size of thimbles containing more tunes than anyone's entire record collection in the 1980s, seemed unimaginable.

I know that, because I don't remember imagining any of this! Every now and again you hear pundits make a claim that the cellphone, etc, owe their credits to shows like Star Trek. That just makes me think that we should be going all out on our sci-fi of today, so we can have super cool stuff a few years from now. I think we tend to too cynically downplay the power of our collective consciousness - the more we dream and imagine the things we want, and get more specific about what we want those things to be, has a huge impact on what we can eventually accomplish.

As an informal poll, if you could just imagine one thing that you'd want a few years from now, what would it be? Chances are, you're not alone in your desires, and market forces and governments tend to take heed of those kinds of things. I put it to all forum members: what do you want, presuming the imaginable is possible?

For me, I would have like to have been an rf enginner in the 60's or 80's. Those were the golden times of ECE and lots of stuff was hapening around the world.

I respect the Old USSR, they were a worthy adversary.

dknguyen · 8th February 2008, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Fletcher

I put it to all forum members: what do you want, presuming the imaginable is possible?

-better power sources (generation and batteries)
-better actuators
-a learning computer that superconducts at room temperature

HiTech · 9th February 2008, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pommie

IWe think that we have advanced so much but the reality is that most mechanical things are pretty much the same as 50 years ago.

Mike.

Better take a closer look at modern day automobiles. Between advanced materials, and refined prinicples, they are far different than the old rumble seat clunkers our grandparents drove. And that doesn't include the heavy interface of electronics in them.

Pommie · 9th February 2008, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HiTech

Better take a closer look at modern day automobiles. Between advanced materials, and refined prinicples, they are far different than the old rumble seat clunkers our grandparents drove. And that doesn't include the heavy interface of electronics in them.

But they still use the same old internal combustion engine. Surely someone could have come up with something better in the last 125 years.

Mike.

Pommie · 9th February 2008, 05:54 AM

I would like to see a theory of intelligence, self awareness and original thought. This would enable us to build intelligent machines - whether that is a good goal or not is another debate. Thirty years ago everyone thought this was just around the corner.

Mike.

dknguyen · 9th February 2008, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pommie

But they still use the same old internal combustion engine. Surely someone could have come up with something better in the last 125 years.

Mike.

They have! Better combustion engines- duh.

The thing I like about AI is that there is something left to pick up where we left off after we make an irrecoverable mistake.

Gaston · 9th February 2008, 09:06 AM

it seems to that electric cars and nuclear power plants would be the way to go. and take the waste and send it on a rocket to the sun

dknguyen · 9th February 2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaston

it seems to that electric cars and nuclear power plants would be the way to go. and take the waste and send it on a rocket to the sun

What fuels the rocket?

Thunderchild · 9th February 2008, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dknguyen

What fuels the rocket?

very true so lets just kick our ases for not doing it before and get on with putting up some solar panels

Gaston · 9th February 2008, 09:40 AM

well we can use regular rocket fuel for the rockets. what is rocket fuel made from anyway.i believe its hydrogen and oxygen isn't it? do they get the hydrogen from petrolium?

Thunderchild · 9th February 2008, 09:45 AM

erm I thought is was petrol or something if it was hydrogen they would not polute and as far as I know polute they do if rockets ran on hydrogen I'm sure areoplanes would too and again that would solve the polution problems of areoplanes

Thunderchild · 9th February 2008, 09:48 AM

oh and by the ay yes it seems scientists are nuts over getting hydrogen from petrolium rather than water I guess it has something to do with profits yet again

Gaston · 9th February 2008, 09:50 AM

i guess it takes a lot of energey to separate hydrogen from water

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8th February 2008, 05:08 PM	(permalink)
Hank Fletcher	So to sum up Gaston's and Thunderchild's collective anticipations, we should test for cures to horrible diseases on nasty people (whoever they might be), preferably killing off the worst of them in the process. I'd suggest there's enough evidence that that's happening already - "hooligfans," through their various vices, tend to cull themselves, and in doing so, provide their bodies as test examples of what too much cigarettes, booze, loose sex, and bad diet can do to a person. Let 'em die out, and their parasitic industries with them, I say. I think the goal of curing diseases that effect the most vulnerable of humanity is a noble one. Sometimes the solution to that sort of thing exists in more places than just under a microscope in a lab. I say it's a good initiative, but obviously much more imagination, and action, is still required. Any other ideas out there? C'mon, how often does someone ask you what exactly it is you want?! Last edited by Hank Fletcher; 8th February 2008 at 05:11 PM.

8th February 2008, 05:18 PM	(permalink)
Thunderchild	yes I want the Skenar to be accepted by goverments and the medics and not ignored because it will put pharmaceutical businesses out of a job being a single electronic device that will cure anything, its been proven but have goverments allowed it to be accepted no WHY ? BECAUSE OF PROFIT this can cure anything from impotence to cancer and of course headaches it works yes its like startreck medics machines but above all IT WORKS but is it released to the general public ? NO its a couple of ICs (one probably a microcontroller) and a handfull of components and a LCD display you can have one if you like but the goverment won't say yes this cures bad stuff they will only say OOOOH it only cures pains. there are solutions to the worlds problems all around us but we don't turn to them because it is UNPROFITABLE..... __________________ I AM the exeption that disproves the rule in many ways but the rules still apply (unfortunately) my site:www.simons-photography.com http://rushdenrotaract.org.uk see also http://www.bigstockphoto.com/account...fid=m2URATYch5 http://www.redbubble.com/people/simonsphotography

9th February 2008, 05:54 AM	(permalink)
Pommie	I would like to see a theory of intelligence, self awareness and original thought. This would enable us to build intelligent machines - whether that is a good goal or not is another debate. Thirty years ago everyone thought this was just around the corner. Mike.

9th February 2008, 09:06 AM	(permalink)
Gaston	it seems to that electric cars and nuclear power plants would be the way to go. and take the waste and send it on a rocket to the sun

9th February 2008, 09:40 AM	(permalink)
Gaston	well we can use regular rocket fuel for the rockets. what is rocket fuel made from anyway.i believe its hydrogen and oxygen isn't it? do they get the hydrogen from petrolium?

9th February 2008, 09:45 AM	(permalink)
Thunderchild	erm I thought is was petrol or something if it was hydrogen they would not polute and as far as I know polute they do if rockets ran on hydrogen I'm sure areoplanes would too and again that would solve the polution problems of areoplanes __________________ I AM the exeption that disproves the rule in many ways but the rules still apply (unfortunately) my site:www.simons-photography.com http://rushdenrotaract.org.uk see also http://www.bigstockphoto.com/account...fid=m2URATYch5 http://www.redbubble.com/people/simonsphotography

9th February 2008, 09:48 AM	(permalink)
Thunderchild	oh and by the ay yes it seems scientists are nuts over getting hydrogen from petrolium rather than water I guess it has something to do with profits yet again __________________ I AM the exeption that disproves the rule in many ways but the rules still apply (unfortunately) my site:www.simons-photography.com http://rushdenrotaract.org.uk see also http://www.bigstockphoto.com/account...fid=m2URATYch5 http://www.redbubble.com/people/simonsphotography

9th February 2008, 09:50 AM	(permalink)
Gaston	i guess it takes a lot of energey to separate hydrogen from water