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Old 1st February 2008, 01:50 AM   (permalink)
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I didn't read the whole tread, so...


In short. YES!!!! GET LINUX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you REALLY need to run a winwoes program, there is always wine, or as a last resort, you could dual boot.
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Old 1st February 2008, 01:57 AM   (permalink)
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yes its ubuntu, and when you say icon on desktop to start installation? nope, the only thing i have is the ubuntu 7.10i386 on the cd and the original ISO which is the ubuntu before i put it on the CD.

There is the installation option on the CD but its to slow to operate correctly?
Are you talking about your Windows desktop or the Linux one you get when you run from the CD? I'm talking about the one on the Linux desktop. That's the installer I was talking about.


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Old 1st February 2008, 02:06 AM   (permalink)
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Are you talking about your Windows desktop or the Linux one you get when you run from the CD? I'm talking about the one on the Linux desktop. That's the installer I was talking about.


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yes thats the one i meant to, I tried running to cd from boot up and i get to the desktop that says install, but when i click on it the cd doesnt seem to want load it just hangs there for ages, ive only tried once, so i might try again.
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Old 1st February 2008, 02:12 AM   (permalink)
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yes thats the one i meant to, I tried running to cd from boot up and i get to the desktop that says install, but when i click on it the cd doesnt seem to want load it just hangs there for ages, ive only tried once, so i might try again.
Yeah, give it another shot. It might just be tied up detecting things; not sure. I remember the 7.10 install being one of the simplest I've ever done with any OS.


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Old 1st February 2008, 02:57 AM   (permalink)
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well i tried it again, and still no luck, it just gets to the linux desktop and when i click on install, the install window opens up only with a white screen?

i might try to re burn it to another CD?
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Old 1st February 2008, 03:14 AM   (permalink)
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i had the same problem. i had to download it again. i guess a bit or two got messed up i the download
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Old 1st February 2008, 03:40 AM   (permalink)
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I have had really bad luck with KUBUNTU. That is why i went with ubuntu. Kubuntu kept fussing about this and that, when in ubuntu, i was able to do things that kubuntu wouldn't!

oh well. I like the simplicity of gnome (now). KDE is a BIT over kill. I still like it, too, though...
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Old 1st February 2008, 04:07 AM   (permalink)
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well i tried it again, and still no luck, it just gets to the linux desktop and when i click on install, the install window opens up only with a white screen?

i might try to re burn it to another CD?
I think Gaston's right: try downloading a new ISO and burn that.


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Old 1st February 2008, 05:17 AM   (permalink)
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I tried running it again and no luck i clicked on the install and walk away because it was taking forever?

after about 20 minutes the first WELCOME screen was available and i had to choose my country, but i couldnt do anything whenever i moved my mouse it was really slow and the CD drive sounded like it was trying to find a particular part of the CD, but it never worked?

is there a way to install/convert the original ISO file to my spare hard drive without a reboot using the CD drive???
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Old 1st February 2008, 05:27 AM   (permalink)
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I tried running it again and no luck i clicked on the install and walk away because it was taking forever?

after about 20 minutes the first WELCOME screen was available and i had to choose my country, but i couldnt do anything whenever i moved my mouse it was really slow and the CD drive sounded like it was trying to find a particular part of the CD, but it never worked?

is there a way to install/convert the original ISO file to my spare hard drive without a reboot using the CD drive???

[edit] when i downloaded it there were two download options one was for computers with sempron and ohers, and the other one was for computers with 64bit AMD and Intel computers.

well i dont know what mine really was, on my computer it says AMD Sempron

so i chose the first one that said sempron?

i dont understand what that means.
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Old 1st February 2008, 07:39 AM   (permalink)
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I tried running it again and no luck i clicked on the install and walk away because it was taking forever?

after about 20 minutes the first WELCOME screen was available and i had to choose my country, but i couldnt do anything whenever i moved my mouse it was really slow and the CD drive sounded like it was trying to find a particular part of the CD, but it never worked?
What kind of machine power are we talking here? Semprons aren't high-end but faster ones should be OK. Right-click on My Computer and select Properties. IIRC, the box that pops up should tell you the Windows version, amount of memory, processor type, etc.

And on a Sempron, it is possible that running the Live CD might be quite (read: painfully) choppy.

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is there a way to install/convert the original ISO file to my spare hard drive without a reboot using the CD drive???
EASY WAY FIRST: I'm going to tell you *first* what I think will have the greatest chance of success: go to http://www.ubuntu.com and download the Alternate version for i386. Burn the ISO to CD at a slow speed on good media. Try booting from that. You won't have the Live CD feature, but the text-based installer works just as well.

You should probably check the downloaded ISO's MP5 checksum to make sure it's OK before you burn it. Use a tool like http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/. Get the MD5 checksum from http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ub...s/7.10/MD5SUMS and open it. It has a few lines of text. Each line is an MD5 checksum followed by the name of the image file which it is for. Check that against the output of the md5sums.exe program.

That said, if you're dead-set on getting the ISO you have onto a hard drive and trying to install from that, (brief) instructions are here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:G...e_or_USB_stick

There is a catch, however--you will need a bootable Linux of some description, since you need to be able to boot via a bootloader where you can tell the kernel where to find the ISO you've copied onto the hard drive. More trouble than it's worth.

If your PC can boot from a USB stick, and you have one that you can wipe and fit the ISO image on, you could try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/In...n/FromUSBStick

But I'd consider both options to be last resorts (and even then, I'd try the second one first).

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[edit] when i downloaded it there were two download options one was for computers with sempron and ohers, and the other one was for computers with 64bit AMD and Intel computers.

well i dont know what mine really was, on my computer it says AMD Sempron

so i chose the first one that said sempron?

i dont understand what that means.
You picked the right one. Sempron is the name of AMD's budget processor family, something like Intel's Celerons.


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Old 1st February 2008, 09:12 AM   (permalink)
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ok i have XP Home edition

version 2002
service pack 2

mobile AMD sempron processor 2800+
1.60Ghz and 192mb of ram

do you think it should work ok?
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Old 1st February 2008, 09:20 AM   (permalink)
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ok i have XP Home edition

version 2002
service pack 2

mobile AMD sempron processor 2800+
1.60Ghz and 192mb of ram

do you think it should work ok?
It should, but I'm not making any guarantees--I've never used one of those. You may not be able to turn on all the bling, but one thing I love about Linux is that if the GUI is too heavy for the machine, you can always replace it with something lighter.

But: get more RAM. Especially if you don't run Linux. 1 GB is just about good, 2 GB is fine for just about anything you'd want to do at home (for Windows). Linux doesn't need quite as much just to run, but RAM is cheap and it makes things much faster no matter what OS you're running. 192 MB may well be the reason things are running so slow for you.


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Old 1st February 2008, 09:35 AM   (permalink)
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It should, but I'm not making any guarantees--I've never used one of those. You may not be able to turn on all the bling, but one thing I love about Linux is that if the GUI is too heavy for the machine, you can always replace it with something lighter.

But: get more RAM. Especially if you don't run Linux. 1 GB is just about good, 2 GB is fine for just about anything you'd want to do at home (for Windows). Linux doesn't need quite as much just to run, but RAM is cheap and it makes things much faster no matter what OS you're running. 192 MB may well be the reason things are running so slow for you.


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ok thanks, more RAM is on the card's, ill download that other app you recommended, thanks for all the help, ill post back at a later time to let you know how it went.

[edit] is the Alternate version the server addition???
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Old 1st February 2008, 09:45 AM   (permalink)
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ok thanks, more RAM is on the card's, ill download that other app you recommended, thanks for all the help, ill post back at a later time to let you know how it went.
No problem. Good news on the RAM, too--I never believed it was so important until I tried more and realized I almost never heard the hard drive anymore (compared to back in the 256 MB days).

Good luck! Post if you hit a speedbump, or if you succeed wildly.


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