It was a response to his question. In a Christian world, which it will be when the end times arrive and Christ rules, this will not ever happpen. In this world, it is still not commanded by christ to do so.

So it was mentioned and I delivered. Pertinent to the subject matter.

 

Can't say I agree with "In a Christian world... this will not ever happpen." People in the past and now, are and were more than capable of perverting any pure thing they come whether it be environment, beliefs, or ideals. Sad really. Hopefully things change in the future. But I gotta say I agree with "when the end times arrive this will not ever happpen." I neither disagree with the statement as whole in complete context though.

 

Considering Christianity is a long story of murder, torture and atrocities (not to mentioned death and destruction from on high, via some imaginary fictional being), this is essentially a punishment of a highly religious culture, like Christianity.

Spanish Inquisition - who were they?.

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Well they brought the "Comfy Chair"

Ximinez: So you think you are strong because you can survive the soft cushions. Well, we shall see. Biggles! Put her in the Comfy Chair!

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The Bishop!!

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It's really about "us" and "them". If you belong to "them" for whatever reason then all manner of indignities may be perpetrated upon your person by "us". The social contract seems to require this behavior in order to reinforce belonging to "us". I'm quite sure that religion is too limiting a context for this discussion of man's inhumanity to man. The literature is replete with examples of this theme.

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Wow, that sure looks like a Franny Bacon painting!

 

What movie are those from?

 

It's all Monty Python sketches. From the old TV show.

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they are still young, we should give them hope.

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You might have a cute avatar, but your education is sadly lacking in some equally important areas!

I brought my daughter up properly! - she loves Monty Python, and even has the DVD "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" - one of the best films ever. She's played it for numerous friends, all of whom have fallen in love with Monty Python.

Go and buy it, or hire it - don't bother with "The Life of Brian", that's no where near as good.

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The opinion of contemporary education theory, at least in the developed, Western world, is that punishment in any form is inherently wrong.

I think I articulated my thoughts on Christianity and other religions (at least vicariously) well enough in the "Do you believe in God" thread, so I'm going to let that one alone here.

As for the references to Monty Python, I think there must be some sort law of nature determining that given an infinite amount of time, all nerdly discussions will eventually gravitate towards Monty Python. Either that, or Star Wars. Possibly Dungeons and Dragons.

 

Well, at least some things change. It used to be that Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy exerted that kind of gravity.

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I think the "us and them" idea is part of what the education theory to which I referred earlier conflicts. There is only "us," and as such, to inflict punishment is only to in some way harm the whole (and thus in some part, yourself).
For instance, Heart of Darkness, or the movie version, Apocalypse Now. I should qualify that, since the imagery of the movie can be confusing.

The point of both movie and book stems from Kurtz's epiphany with respect to "the horror" of war. Specifically, Kurtz is referring to the extent to which a victor must be capable of detaching itself from all capacity to empathize with the enemy, but while still retaining the ability to return to humanity in times of non-conflict.

As a result of his experiences, Kurtz was not able to do that, and as a result went insane and became a failed soldier. Kurtz was only able to live in an idealized utopia without conflict.

In many ways, his sentiment is admirable, mainly due to his expression of disgust ("the horror") at the extent to which one group of humans will go in harming other humans for the purpose of forwarding their own interests.

It's this disgust, and the capacity to reason that Kurtz's idealized utopia might through some method actually be possible, that drives the non-punishment, education theory. I dare say I think it drives the majority of us to think, "There might be a better way of solving the problem of this eight-year-old's theft."

 

Ah, but doesn't your referencing it now prove that it still does? 42!