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Old 17th January 2008, 04:11 PM   (permalink)
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power steering is for the weak.
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Old 18th January 2008, 04:04 AM   (permalink)
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Only a few German people in Canada drive a car with a stinking diesel engine.
School buses and trucks have diesel engines.
Modern diesel motors in passenger vehicles are quite advanced. They have much lower noise due to common rail injection, emit less hydrocarbons and smell from employing catalytic converters, get much better fuel economy over their gasoline counterparts, start easily in cold weather without the constant need for a engine block warmer, and most motors "break-in" at 50,000mi and last well towards 400K-500Kmi.
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Old 18th January 2008, 05:40 AM   (permalink)
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Only American diesel engines made in 2007 and newer must have a catalytic converter and a soot filter. I have never smelled nor seen one. All the ones I have smelled stink and I have seen black soot in the exhaust.
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Old 18th January 2008, 06:47 AM   (permalink)
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Am I the only one that sees the parallel between this and the original German "People's Car"? Seating, horsepower, accelleration, top speed and more are all within about 15%. Even the manufacturing specs are nearly identical with the exception that strong plastic was far too expensive to even be considered when Ferdinand Porsche got the specs from his government in 1936. What's old is new again - 70 years later.

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Old 18th January 2008, 08:02 AM   (permalink)
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I learnt to drive with a Fiat punto (when I lived in Italy) god it was horendous the asshole instructor insisted on having the girlie thing on all the time I only had to think ok I'll need to turn right in 100 metres and I was already swerving its so light it is dangerous in my opinion talk about driving by telepathy
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Old 18th January 2008, 08:03 AM   (permalink)
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say hasn't that yorkie chocolate been banned for racism or something it probably would have in the uk hence we don't have it
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Old 18th January 2008, 02:21 PM   (permalink)
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Girls and guys are different races?? Only in some weird countries.
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Old 18th January 2008, 02:26 PM   (permalink)
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actually in italy its called the "city mode" I'd rather call it the telepathic crash mode if you can only drive a car with a little finger then you have no business driving a car
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Old 18th January 2008, 03:39 PM   (permalink)
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actually in italy its called the "city mode" I'd rather call it the telepathic crash mode if you can only drive a car with a little finger then you have no business driving a car
It's called 'City mode' in the UK as well, and labelled as such, it's just that a TV advert called it a 'girlie button'.

Really it's for parking, not for driving.
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Old 18th January 2008, 03:49 PM   (permalink)
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yea well you see 50 % of italians are arsholes and my driving instruct fell into this category and decided I had to do ALL driving in "city mode" my fiesta has light enough "normal" stearing and something less to go wrong

what worries me about that tata is consumption my last mileage was 11.875 mile per litre doing 1/2 a tank on a non stop 260 mile journey and 1/2 a tank driving locally so a good average (best and worst conditions) so thats 54 mpg this tata "thing" with an engine hardly more than 1/2 the size of mine does 50 mpg so its half as efficient than a 10 year old ford fiesta
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Old 18th January 2008, 11:41 PM   (permalink)
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yea well you see 50 % of italians are arsholes and my driving instruct fell into this category and decided I had to do ALL driving in "city mode" my fiesta has light enough "normal" stearing and something less to go wrong

what worries me about that tata is consumption my last mileage was 11.875 mile per litre doing 1/2 a tank on a non stop 260 mile journey and 1/2 a tank driving locally so a good average (best and worst conditions) so thats 54 mpg this tata "thing" with an engine hardly more than 1/2 the size of mine does 50 mpg so its half as efficient than a 10 year old ford fiesta
probably cause the engines made out of recycled plastic bags. lawl.
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Old 19th January 2008, 12:19 AM   (permalink)
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The dinky little Tata engine is a two-stroke. So it wastes a lot of gas making its screaming sound. I wonder if you must mix oil with its fuel. I wonder if it smokes like a chain-saw.

My Chevrolet has electric power steering to save fuel since an ordinary hydraulic power steering pump runs all the time. Mine has a light feeling for parking and automatically adjusts for more force required when driving along.
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Old 19th January 2008, 06:39 AM   (permalink)
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[quote=audioguru]The dinky little Tata engine is a two-stroke. QUOTE]

in some countrys they working on laws that forbid 2 strokes at all

only the ones that already there are alowed but new ones, no way
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Old 19th January 2008, 08:31 AM   (permalink)
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two stroke ? sh!t thats BAD they are more poluting but they are more efficient and oh yes they are theoretically twice but in reality not quite, in a 4 stroke engine the pistons do a dead cycle only on 1 out of 2 downstrokes does the sparkplug fire whereas in a 2 stroke it fires on every downstroke so the same size engine has uppose 1.7 times the power they say it is not as thermally efficient as the 4 stroke, but because of its nature the lubricating oil is mixed with the petrol and burned and so is very poluting, well thats what school taught me (and the instructions to my RC spitfire with a 6.47cc 2 stroke engine)
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Old 19th January 2008, 10:47 AM   (permalink)
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two stroke ? sh!t thats BAD they are more poluting but they are more efficient
That's not true, two strokes are less efficient and are banned in many countries as they don't meet the emissions stantards.
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