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Old 9th January 2008, 10:55 AM   (permalink)
Default at what temp we have a super conductor now these days???

Just wondering at which temp we have a super conducter
15 years aggo there was a lot of research on it (at least the media did cover it wel)
at this time al eyes are focused on the sighting of a not seen part in a atom, and if it's not there 80% of the phisics laws are not valid annymore
as if that will change our daily lives
i am not saying it's not importand but super conduction in the range of -20 Celsius would be a revolution
Lets freez up your microprocesors and do the imposible with your computer
it would also look good for the emisions of those nasty greenhouse gases
the waste of energy transportation in cables that would be reduced will be significant
magnetic trains that can go faster than an airplanes
annyone some info where we stand at this moment
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Old 9th January 2008, 01:55 PM   (permalink)
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Once again on the same tired drum
Google and Wiki are your friends
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-te...superconductor
Looks like 138 degrees K
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Old 9th January 2008, 09:09 PM   (permalink)
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i'm too lazy to convert. whats that in fahrenheit?
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Old 9th January 2008, 09:19 PM   (permalink)
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i'm too lazy to convert. whats that in fahrenheit?
my my that is a terrible attitude.

http://www.google.com/search?q=138K+in+F
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Old 10th January 2008, 04:08 PM   (permalink)
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my my that is a terrible attitude.

http://www.google.com/search?q=138K+in+F
No, it just shows my contempt for the lack of standard measuring procedures. As a practicing RF engineer, it is very petty and frustating when I have to convert mm to milli-inches to micrometers for no apparent reason.

It doesn't prove anything, is anal and is just plain stupid. Proof?

Mars Climate Orbiter (MCO) was launched on 11 December 1998 only to crash because of some stupid mixup with newton seconds and pound force seconds. Result? 128 million dollars down the drain.

I hope every engineer on the NASA JPL staff got fired for that one.
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Old 10th January 2008, 04:37 PM   (permalink)
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hi quixotron..

Looks like 138 degrees K

>> i'm too lazy to convert. whats that in fahrenheit?
Why would you want to convert the absolute Kelvin standard to Farenheit?


>>No, it just shows my contempt for the lack of standard measuring procedures

You obviously dont know that Kelvin is the absolute temperature standard. so whats the point in converting to some arbitary relative temperature.
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Old 10th January 2008, 09:08 PM   (permalink)
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No, it just shows my contempt for the lack of standard measuring procedures. As a practicing RF engineer, it is very petty and frustating when I have to convert mm to milli-inches to micrometers for no apparent reason.
Interesting isn't it? Since the rest of the world uses metric, you woudl think your contempt would compel you to at least ask for it in Celcius.
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Old 10th January 2008, 10:03 PM   (permalink)
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No, it just shows my contempt for the lack of standard measuring procedures. As a practicing RF engineer, it is very petty and frustating when I have to convert mm to milli-inches to micrometers for no apparent reason.
Man. All that condescension, and then you want it in an archaic, arbitrary unit system only used by a small fraction of the world? Lemme guess: you measure speed in furlongs per fortnight, right?

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It doesn't prove anything, is anal and is just plain stupid. Proof?
I'd have to agree, but probably not in the way you were intending.


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Old 11th January 2008, 01:55 AM   (permalink)
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You are displaying a serious attitude problem and you sound a bit shaky for a career in RF engineering if you have no feeling for the different measurement systems without the necessity of doing a conversion. The RF engineers I know are all way better than average when it comes to the complicated stuff let alone the easy things.

I think that 138 degrees Kelvin is 248.4 degrees Rankine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rankine_scale
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Old 11th January 2008, 02:02 AM   (permalink)
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No, it just shows my contempt for the lack of standard measuring procedures. As a practicing RF engineer, it is very petty and frustating when I have to convert mm to milli-inches to micrometers for no apparent reason.

It doesn't prove anything, is anal and is just plain stupid. Proof?

Mars Climate Orbiter (MCO) was launched on 11 December 1998 only to crash because of some stupid mixup with newton seconds and pound force seconds. Result? 128 million dollars down the drain.

I hope every engineer on the NASA JPL staff got fired for that one.
That's just wonderful how they spend so much money on trying to find out about other planets while we destroy this one, i think i just rofl in my pants.
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Old 11th January 2008, 02:47 AM   (permalink)
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That's just wonderful how they spend so much money on trying to find out about other planets while we destroy this one, i think i just rofl in my pants.
At first glance that makes sense. But in the long run we have learned much about earth by studying other planets. If you want to stop wasting real money find a way to put an end to war. It has a much larger budget and in general does little or no good.

The best way to preserve this planet would be to leave it. Without space travel we will never be able to do so.
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Old 11th January 2008, 03:02 AM   (permalink)
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At first glance that makes sense. But in the long run we have learned much about earth by studying other planets. If you want to stop wasting real money find a way to put an end to war. It has a much larger budget and in general does little or no good.

The best way to preserve this planet would be to leave it. Without space travel we will never be able to do so.
According to the Space Review, in 2007 the American budget allocated $98 USD to social programs for every $1 going to NASA. Both were far behind the defense budget.

Stephen Hawking figures we've got less than 100 years to get off this rock before we have screwed it up too much to live here anymore. I've never met him but by all accounts he's a pretty clever fellow.


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Old 11th January 2008, 05:57 AM   (permalink)
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Man. All that condescension, and then you want it in an archaic, arbitrary unit system only used by a small fraction of the world?
How much condescension did you expect at 138K?
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Stephen Hawking figures we've got less than 100 years to get off this rock before we have screwed it up too much to live here anymore.
I guess we are screwed, because there is nothing else habitable that we know of. Time to pass out the mandatory birth control devices.
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i think i just rofl in my pants.
I have a very strange image in my minds eye right now. Is there any reason why you wouldn't be in your pants?
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Old 11th January 2008, 06:08 AM   (permalink)
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Stephen Hawking figures we've got less than 100 years to get off this rock before we have screwed it up too much to live here anymore.


That should be a reason to speed up that supper conduction in order to buy time for our stay on earth
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Old 11th January 2008, 06:57 AM   (permalink)
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How much condescension did you expect at 138K?
Well I found out night before last that running a dehumidifier at 279 K just ices it up and it's useless. :/

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I guess we are screwed, because there is nothing else habitable that we know of. Time to pass out the mandatory birth control devices.
Yeah. I really hope he's wrong. The subject does seem to be outside his direct field of expertise, so here's hoping.


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