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Old 13th August 2006, 01:56 AM   (permalink)
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Yes, of course i would, and i bet you would too. The fact is that they are not posting reasonable questions. I guess there is one thing that would make this problem clearer for me. What is the actual assignment? Does the professor say "Build a project on your own", or "Build a project from a pre-made schematic". I ask you. If it is 1 then they can go @$#^ off, but if it is combination of 1 and 2, then i guess it doesn't really matter, unless they are also asking to find a project for them...
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Old 13th August 2006, 09:09 PM   (permalink)
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It's the way in which some of them ask the questions though. Quite often all they're interested in is you giving them the full schematic for a circuit which will make up their entire final year project. A final year project is at least 6-8 months design work so it's not suprising that most of us think... are you serious?!?!?! No way!!

Another guy has posted a similar question in the projects section, and he has admitted freely that it's a college assignment, but he has at least explained the problem and presented an idea of his own which he has asked some advice on. He hasn't just said "give me a circuit", he's thought about the problem himself first. Even though I don't think his idea will work, he has at least proved to me that he's willing to do work himself. That's why I've tried to help him, but I won't try to help other college students who only want me to give them the final solution.

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Old 13th August 2006, 11:23 PM   (permalink)
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I peruse other forums, and I have run into a couple of people who declare this forum has the meanest bunch of SOBs they have ever met. These are the same guys who want their projects largely handed to them on a platter, complete with BOMs, for their course/boss, by next Monday, pretty please.

Keep up the good work here, folks!

I put my two and a half years in at considerable expense and effort to get that degree. Now you want others to do the work for YOU??!! And you're paying...what? The guy is too lazy to even plagiarize, fer Crisakes! How many other forums did this idiot visit besides this site? Kind of, "if I ask in enough forums, someone will give it up!" Grrrr!

I guess I'm just prejudiced about broken English. I flinch at every misspelling and grammatical error in the native English-speakers' submissions. Broken pigdin threads drive me right off to the next thread. Personal failing, mea culpa. However, some of the foreign visitors speak really good English. And their technical lingo is right on.

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Old 14th August 2006, 01:55 AM   (permalink)
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It is their degree, and should be COMPLETELY THIER WORK! Nobody should give full blown schematics away, not even to the people who show effort. If they ask for help on a schematic they already have, then that is just ok. But the whole schematic? C'mon. Get real.
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Old 14th August 2006, 12:02 PM   (permalink)
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Does the professor say "Build a project on your own", or "Build a project from a pre-made schematic". I ask you. If it is 1 then they can go @$#^ off, but if it is combination of 1 and 2, then i guess it doesn't really matter, unless they are also asking to find a project for them...
It doesn't take much time and effort browsing the Internet to find plenty of sites that offer a myriad of circuits..... often too many to choose from for that matter. I know that in America, there are way too many kids (even college age) that want to be spoon fed to the point short of washing their bottoms for them. I don't know what the real ratio or numbers would be comparing the real studious and motivated versus the lazy-ass over-expecting ones.
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Old 16th August 2006, 06:15 PM   (permalink)
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You think English is bad here? Well on another forum, there was every mistake, and misspelling you could ever think of. His sentences didnt make ANY sense, But he was from Egypt.

He got banned because of his attitude on the forum (he said stuff like, Oh fck this forum, it sucks, Why doesnt anyone help me, posted duplicate threads..etc)

People are just lazy, If you ask something were you know atleast 50% of what your talking about, you will probably get help. But if its like "OH GOD PLEASE HELP ME I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO"...etc, then no Your not getting help. Infact, I will lead you on a false sense of secruity, I will tell you the opposite of what you want to know.

Ha, I did that in High. In Electronics during test, people would ask me the answers, after a while of giving them the wrong answers, they got pissed and stoped asking. It was pretty funny when it happened, I would end up with a 86 or so, while the other person got a 25 :haha:
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Old 16th August 2006, 06:26 PM   (permalink)
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I peruse other forums, and I have run into a couple of people who declare this forum has the meanest bunch of SOBs they have ever met. These are the same guys who want their projects largely handed to them on a platter, complete with BOMs, for their course/boss, by next Monday, pretty please.

Keep up the good work here, folks!
Yeah, who cares if they think we're mean. We're never going to have to work with them since they are going to fail.
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Old 16th August 2006, 08:04 PM   (permalink)
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The ones that are just beginning, like first year or high schoolers, and say so in the beginning could probably need some help. The demanding ones, or the ones that are looking for final year projects (but never have any specific function in mind) can go to hell.

While I was in school, I had so many ideas, just no time or money. Come to think of it, things haven't changed that much... I don't understand how a college kid would make it so far into an engineering degree, have such huge resources at his finger tips, need to get complete strangers to do the assignments. Doesn't seem like the course work is any tougher. If they aren't interested enough to even try, why bother getting the degree in the first place?
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Old 16th August 2006, 08:17 PM   (permalink)
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The ones that are just beginning, like first year or high schoolers, and say so in the beginning could probably need some help. The demanding ones, or the ones that are looking for final year projects (but never have any specific function in mind) can go to hell.

While I was in school, I had so many ideas, just no time or money. Come to think of it, things haven't changed that much... I don't understand how a college kid would make it so far into an engineering degree, have such huge resources at his finger tips, need to get complete strangers to do the assignments. Doesn't seem like the course work is any tougher. If they aren't interested enough to even try, why bother getting the degree in the first place?
Funny how the world Works it self out eh? The weak die off, leaving only the strong. But a couple manage to get through the system-which is why we have idiots, assholes and people who dont know what their doing.
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Old 16th August 2006, 10:37 PM   (permalink)
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And the ones who do have a project, i.e. bluetooth, choose such a difficult task, that it is unreasonable. If they don't know how to do something, then they shouldn't choose it as a task!
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Old 17th August 2006, 05:47 AM   (permalink)
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I doubt those people wind up with the plum jobs, even with lots of help. the engineering world has many positions that do no design work at all. qa, sales engineers, and so on, thus limiting the damage they can do. the business world is darwinian. the companies that hire crappy engineers wind up building crappy products and wind up out of business. a resume with a history of failed projects gets round-filed more often than not. It's slow but there is some justice in the world.
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Old 17th August 2006, 10:30 PM   (permalink)
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Hi all,
I am new here. My first impression to this site is that people try to help each other and have some fun. So, I post help to seek for ideas of building cable tester and 5 phase motor drive tester. Actually, I am brain storming of building a cable/looming tester with more than 100 connections for different products and a 5 phase motor tester for our production line. I also seek for help of EEPORM problem. I hope to encounter some body who has some experience to these matters. Then, I found out peolpe started to comment on English etc.. It sounds a bit funny.
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Old 17th August 2006, 10:49 PM   (permalink)
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Hi all,
I am new here. My first impression to this site is that people try to help each other and have some fun. So, I post help to seek for ideas of building cable tester and 5 phase motor drive tester. Actually, I am brain storming of building a cable/looming tester with more than 100 connections for different products and a 5 phase motor tester for our production line. I also seek for help of EEPORM problem. I hope to encounter some body who has some experience to these matters. Then, I found out peolpe started to comment on English etc.. It sounds a bit funny.
Yeah, its a load of laughs at times. Just be patient and keep in mind that this forum is worldwide. You can let the cultural stuff get you upset. Like, I've notice that some of the regulars from England tend to pick at your typing skills and a like to argue. Oh, and topics concerning jamming cellphones ('mobiles'), stun-guns, microwave ovens, anything that explodes... are generally button pushing subjects, the response is almost predictable. The middle easterners are a little weak in the typing and english skills, took a while to realize they were adults at first.

But through all this and, many other amusing observations, there are quite a few well educated and helpful people that regularly post in the forum. Just have to try to keep your thread focused on topic, we often get side-tracked...

Oh, almost forgot... a PIC is the only real way to do anything. Just kidding, some people like to brag on themselves that way...

And finally, if you need help with something, and don't get much response, be more specific or show more of want you've done with it so far. Nobody likes working on mystery circuits. Pictures and diagrams are a huge help.
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Old 18th August 2006, 09:24 AM   (permalink)
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That is, actually a pretty good summary of Electro-tech
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Old 18th August 2006, 12:34 PM   (permalink)
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quite off-topic ... but
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