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crust · 22nd April 2006, 02:28 PM

If you have made it this far, you have the discipline to finish, stick it out, because a degree is really one of the few things that nobody can take away from you. In any case, the theory may seem pointless now, but when you get handed a real design, or better yet somebody else's design that has problems, that theory will come in handy quick. As for engineering jobs, almost none are available w/o a degree and at least in my experience to move up the degree is required. There are engineering jobs that suck and some that kick ass. It is what you make of it though. I worked for a company for 5 years that really went nowhere. While there I did my job but acquired as much industry knowledge and practical experience as possible. The next job (which I am currently at) is so much better, you don't even notice the day go by. The theory may not seem imoprtant now, but it makes doing analysis and the 'Aha' moment so much more clear in the future.

Hero999 · 22nd April 2006, 08:04 PM

I've been studying for an HND (half a degree) at college for the last five years and to be honest it isn't worth the paper it's wrtten on. It's got easier over time because they've phased out exams and replaced them with coursework which everyone plagerises so it's totally pointless, they also let you submit your work whenever you want even during the summer holliday. I hae thought about doing a degree (somewhere else) but I don't think I'll be able to hack it since I don't have the background so I'm planning to quite education this summer when I'll be awarded my HND.

Styx · 22nd April 2006, 10:09 PM

Great another manager in the making with a"bit" of knowledge just what is needed in an industry full of "too many chief's not enough indians"

Sure it might look pointless but why are you to say have you completed the course then got to a position to make the course? NO

shite its not like it is even that hard I turned up to one exam completely pissed and got 93% in it (maths) equally I turned up to an exam and got 22% in it (quality management) still came out with a masters.

I remember year2 at Uni getting taught some stuff that seemed pointless but then year 3came and I had the skills to get through it because of what I thought was pointless

**Nigel Goodwin** · 23rd April 2006, 07:08 AM

If you don't build the foundations properly, then the house will fall down!.

Just the same in Electronics, you need a decent theoretical foundation to build on.

To be honest (if somewhat cruel!), if you're not breezing the course perhaps you shouldn't have started it in the first place?.

There are really probably two types of successful students?, one is naturally good at the subject and just strolls through without putting any effort in (my daughter Melissa is like that, in EVERYTHING!). Second are the types who put loads of effort and work in, and because of their hard work still get good grades (Fiona, a girl in my daughters year is like that). They are the top two in the year (and the school), but for completely different reasons.

It sounds like Digitan isn't naturally good at the course?, and can't be bothered to put the effort in? (sorry about that!). I would seriously suggest pulling your finger out, getting down and doing some work, and pulling yourself together - do the work, and pass the course. You've wasted too much time on it already, if you were going to give up you should have done so long before - a bit of hard work now should be able to scrape you a pass!.

Hero999 · 23rd April 2006, 12:18 PM

You could even consider doing a part time course as you'll have more time to revise and do assignments.

DigiTan · 25th April 2006, 03:37 PM

It's not as simple as "just doing the work." I wish I could do part-time but I'm being pressured due to time and money limits to take the max hours each term. That's bad news for me because this rathole is filled with people who can coast through life with no effort; or rich bookworms who have no obligations outside class and can easily study 10, 12 or 14 hours a day. GPA is just a measure of how much time was on your hands.

My classes are filled with crooked professors who give favors to class ass-kissing suckups and go math-nazi on anyone else. I once had this bastard give me 0 credit for an amplifier design I got perfectly right simply because it had a typo (junk writing that I forgot to erase) that suggested current was coming out of a MOSFET gate. Everything else matched the answer key exactly. Zero Credit is supposed to mean you got everything wrong or skipped the problem. When I confronted him, he refused to change the grade. I hope he gets hit by a truck.

If they're not crooks, they're just stubborn. My junior year was fraught with senile old fools who reject any work that reflects any trace of independent thinking or out-of-class instruction. If it doesn't match the answer key--its wrong. Nevermind that the circuit works the same or the equation yeilds the same answers--its just wrong. End of story. They'll do anything to keep people like me out the profession.

"Do the work." Yeah I've been there. I do nothing but work and I still get crappy grades. Even when things seem to finally be improving, I fall right back down rock bottom. It's infuriating. I can't win, and if quit, my life would only get worse. If I hear one more know-it-all bragging about how perfect their grades are, I'll kick out their teeth and shove them down their throat so god damn hard, they'll have to sit on food to eat it. :evil:

**Nigel Goodwin** · 25th April 2006, 03:58 PM

Perhaps your grades might be a reflection of your attitude problem?.

You catch more flies with honey than vinegar!.

Optikon · 25th April 2006, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigiTan

It's not as simple as "just doing the work." I wish I could do part-time but I'm being pressured due to time and money limits to take the max hours each term. That's bad news for me because this rathole is filled with people who can coast through life with no effort; or rich bookworms who have no obligations outside class and can easily study 10, 12 or 14 hours a day. GPA is just a measure of how much time was on your hands.

My classes are filled with crooked professors who give favors to class ass-kissing suckups and go math-nazi on anyone else. I once had this bastard give me 0 credit for an amplifier design I got perfectly right simply because it had a typo (junk writing that I forgot to erase) that suggested current was coming out of a MOSFET gate. Everything else matched the answer key exactly. Zero Credit is supposed to mean you got everything wrong or skipped the problem. When I confronted him, he refused to change the grade. I hope he gets hit by a truck.

If they're not crooks, they're just stubborn. My junior year was fraught with senile old fools who reject any work that reflects any trace of independent thinking or out-of-class instruction. If it doesn't match the answer key--its wrong. Nevermind that the circuit works the same or the equation yeilds the same answers--its just wrong. End of story. They'll do anything to keep people like me out the profession.

"Do the work." Yeah I've been there. I do nothing but work and I still get crappy grades. Even when things seem to finally be improving, I fall right back down rock bottom. It's infuriating. I can't win, and if quit, my life would only get worse. If I hear one more know-it-all bragging about how perfect their grades are, I'll kick out their teeth and shove them down their throat so god damn hard, they'll have to sit on food to eat it. :evil:

yeah, calm down some and STOP worrying about others! I can't stress that enough.. who care if they kiss-ass. forget about them. Didnt you decide to join the program so that YOU could learn? Work on what YOU need to do so that you understand the material and get better grades.

If you work very hard at your caoursework, I assure you, you will undertsand the material much better then any of the other slackers and in the end, you win and they lose.

docel · 25th April 2006, 06:03 PM

okay digitan: Youve had your bad taste and a heavy head. You were steamed up and let-off steam. Thats that. Time that you simmered down a little and took a break. Now dont try to paint the world in red the way you see it. No denying it is, but only at times and in parts, and for all of us too!!
Just get down and do something useful, something you are good at. Hurling profanities and other four-letter words will only prove that you just want to scream, instead of doing your best.

The whole world is not Eden, but there is one somewhere in the world....:P

p.s: Please desist from using profanities :evil: :evil:

Hero999 · 26th April 2006, 07:15 PM

Profanities?
You should hear some of the F-um-up words used on other forums I visit.

Seriously I think he's just using this board to let off steam, clear his head and get advice and support from other people.

digitan,
I know you feel your being victimised or bullied by the professers and if it's true you should report them. However you must be sure that this is the case and you're not being paranoid or have some sort of persecution complex. Perhapps you might have a bad attitude towards your lecturers and they take offence to it or maybe you're not sticking up for yourself.

Do you get on with any other of the students?

If so talk to them to see what they think and if they agree they might even stick upi for you.

If you don't get on with you peers then you should think about looking at how you treat them, perhapps you could consider getting some counseling even more so if you're depressed.

**Jay.slovak** · 27th April 2006, 03:37 PM

Hey Guys, calm down. This is not a place to argue. Why don't you continue this elsewhere, perhaps you can use PMs or e-mail?

DigiTan · 27th April 2006, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hero999

Do you get on with any other of the students?

I dunno. The past year or so I've been too pissed off in general to hang out with new people. The people I know are cool, but this place is mostly full of dweebs who only talk about school all the time. And I'm not exaggarting here.

Anyway, I had my last exam today. There's no way I was going to pass that class, so I only studied for the remaining classes and only took this one to avoid the 'incomplete.' There's probably a 90% chance I'll be on probation which means I can't transfer out of this shithole. I'd rather put a bullet in my brain than go through another year of this.

**Nigel Goodwin** · 28th April 2006, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigiTan

I'd rather put a bullet in my brain than go through another year of this.

At least you're in the right country to make it easy :lol:

powertriode · 30th April 2006, 01:04 PM

Don't do it!
I gave up college (HNC electronics) when I was in my late teens and it's my biggest regret.

Thunderchild · 30th April 2006, 07:13 PM

I studied in italy electronics in high school. it was crap i when i knew the mere basics i knew more than a teacher or two that told me it was my fault that my power amp burnt out on a screwed up reused heatsint to which it made poor contact and had no thermal paste.
the one that went to university (unlike the other two) understood the day of my exam that to use a number of window comparators was a lot more of an electronic lock than he had figured i could make with a comparator. I learned all i knoe on my own and laughed at the exam theory thhat was simple comparator and between me another kid and the said teacher we did it for rest of the class as well.

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22nd April 2006, 02:28 PM	(permalink)
crust	If you have made it this far, you have the discipline to finish, stick it out, because a degree is really one of the few things that nobody can take away from you. In any case, the theory may seem pointless now, but when you get handed a real design, or better yet somebody else's design that has problems, that theory will come in handy quick. As for engineering jobs, almost none are available w/o a degree and at least in my experience to move up the degree is required. There are engineering jobs that suck and some that kick ass. It is what you make of it though. I worked for a company for 5 years that really went nowhere. While there I did my job but acquired as much industry knowledge and practical experience as possible. The next job (which I am currently at) is so much better, you don't even notice the day go by. The theory may not seem imoprtant now, but it makes doing analysis and the 'Aha' moment so much more clear in the future.

22nd April 2006, 08:04 PM	(permalink)
Hero999	I've been studying for an HND (half a degree) at college for the last five years and to be honest it isn't worth the paper it's wrtten on. It's got easier over time because they've phased out exams and replaced them with coursework which everyone plagerises so it's totally pointless, they also let you submit your work whenever you want even during the summer holliday. I hae thought about doing a degree (somewhere else) but I don't think I'll be able to hack it since I don't have the background so I'm planning to quite education this summer when I'll be awarded my HND. __________________ I also post at the following sites: http://www.stop-microsoft.org http://www.heated-debates.com Screen name: Aloone_Jonez

22nd April 2006, 10:09 PM	(permalink)
Styx	Great another manager in the making with a"bit" of knowledge just what is needed in an industry full of "too many chief's not enough indians" Sure it might look pointless but why are you to say have you completed the course then got to a position to make the course? NO shite its not like it is even that hard I turned up to one exam completely pissed and got 93% in it (maths) equally I turned up to an exam and got 22% in it (quality management) still came out with a masters. I remember year2 at Uni getting taught some stuff that seemed pointless but then year 3came and I had the skills to get through it because of what I thought was pointless __________________ Nothing is impossible. Once a problem is realised, the rest is just details

23rd April 2006, 07:08 AM	(permalink)
Nigel Goodwin	If you don't build the foundations properly, then the house will fall down!. Just the same in Electronics, you need a decent theoretical foundation to build on. To be honest (if somewhat cruel!), if you're not breezing the course perhaps you shouldn't have started it in the first place?. There are really probably two types of successful students?, one is naturally good at the subject and just strolls through without putting any effort in (my daughter Melissa is like that, in EVERYTHING!). Second are the types who put loads of effort and work in, and because of their hard work still get good grades (Fiona, a girl in my daughters year is like that). They are the top two in the year (and the school), but for completely different reasons. It sounds like Digitan isn't naturally good at the course?, and can't be bothered to put the effort in? (sorry about that!). I would seriously suggest pulling your finger out, getting down and doing some work, and pulling yourself together - do the work, and pass the course. You've wasted too much time on it already, if you were going to give up you should have done so long before - a bit of hard work now should be able to scrape you a pass!. __________________ PIC programmer software, and PIC Tutorials at: http://www.winpicprog.co.uk

23rd April 2006, 12:18 PM	(permalink)
Hero999	You could even consider doing a part time course as you'll have more time to revise and do assignments. __________________ I also post at the following sites: http://www.stop-microsoft.org http://www.heated-debates.com Screen name: Aloone_Jonez

25th April 2006, 03:37 PM	(permalink)
DigiTan	It's not as simple as "just doing the work." I wish I could do part-time but I'm being pressured due to time and money limits to take the max hours each term. That's bad news for me because this rathole is filled with people who can coast through life with no effort; or rich bookworms who have no obligations outside class and can easily study 10, 12 or 14 hours a day. GPA is just a measure of how much time was on your hands. My classes are filled with crooked professors who give favors to class ass-kissing suckups and go math-nazi on anyone else. I once had this bastard give me 0 credit for an amplifier design I got perfectly right simply because it had a typo (junk writing that I forgot to erase) that suggested current was coming out of a MOSFET gate. Everything else matched the answer key exactly. Zero Credit is supposed to mean you got everything wrong or skipped the problem. When I confronted him, he refused to change the grade. I hope he gets hit by a truck. If they're not crooks, they're just stubborn. My junior year was fraught with senile old fools who reject any work that reflects any trace of independent thinking or out-of-class instruction. If it doesn't match the answer key--its wrong. Nevermind that the circuit works the same or the equation yeilds the same answers--its just wrong. End of story. They'll do anything to keep people like me out the profession. "Do the work." Yeah I've been there. I do nothing but work and I still get crappy grades. Even when things seem to finally be improving, I fall right back down rock bottom. It's infuriating. I can't win, and if quit, my life would only get worse. If I hear one more know-it-all bragging about how perfect their grades are, I'll kick out their teeth and shove them down their throat so god damn hard, they'll have to sit on food to eat it. :evil: __________________ The most-hated young engineer in America. * AVR Projects * Robot War: TI * About

25th April 2006, 03:58 PM	(permalink)
Nigel Goodwin	Perhaps your grades might be a reflection of your attitude problem?. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar!. __________________ PIC programmer software, and PIC Tutorials at: http://www.winpicprog.co.uk

25th April 2006, 06:03 PM	(permalink)
docel	okay digitan: Youve had your bad taste and a heavy head. You were steamed up and let-off steam. Thats that. Time that you simmered down a little and took a break. Now dont try to paint the world in red the way you see it. No denying it is, but only at times and in parts, and for all of us too!! Just get down and do something useful, something you are good at. Hurling profanities and other four-letter words will only prove that you just want to scream, instead of doing your best. The whole world is not Eden, but there is one somewhere in the world....:P p.s: Please desist from using profanities :evil: :evil:

26th April 2006, 07:15 PM	(permalink)
Hero999	Profanities? You should hear some of the F-um-up words used on other forums I visit. Seriously I think he's just using this board to let off steam, clear his head and get advice and support from other people. digitan, I know you feel your being victimised or bullied by the professers and if it's true you should report them. However you must be sure that this is the case and you're not being paranoid or have some sort of persecution complex. Perhapps you might have a bad attitude towards your lecturers and they take offence to it or maybe you're not sticking up for yourself. Do you get on with any other of the students? If so talk to them to see what they think and if they agree they might even stick upi for you. If you don't get on with you peers then you should think about looking at how you treat them, perhapps you could consider getting some counseling even more so if you're depressed. __________________ I also post at the following sites: http://www.stop-microsoft.org http://www.heated-debates.com Screen name: Aloone_Jonez

27th April 2006, 03:37 PM	(permalink)
Jay.slovak	Hey Guys, calm down. This is not a place to argue. Why don't you continue this elsewhere, perhaps you can use PMs or e-mail? __________________ "I share, thus I am" Jay.slovak Read this! ICD2 Clone Best PIC/DsPIC Bootloader Read my Inchworm ICD2 review!

30th April 2006, 01:04 PM	(permalink)
powertriode	Don't do it! I gave up college (HNC electronics) when I was in my late teens and it's my biggest regret.

30th April 2006, 07:13 PM	(permalink)
Thunderchild	I studied in italy electronics in high school. it was crap i when i knew the mere basics i knew more than a teacher or two that told me it was my fault that my power amp burnt out on a screwed up reused heatsint to which it made poor contact and had no thermal paste. the one that went to university (unlike the other two) understood the day of my exam that to use a number of window comparators was a lot more of an electronic lock than he had figured i could make with a comparator. I learned all i knoe on my own and laughed at the exam theory thhat was simple comparator and between me another kid and the said teacher we did it for rest of the class as well. __________________ I AM the exeption that disproves the rule in many ways but the rules still apply (unfortunately) my site:www.simons-photography.com http://rushdenrotaract.org.uk see also http://www.bigstockphoto.com/account...fid=m2URATYch5 http://www.redbubble.com/people/simonsphotography