You need a large temperature differential on a Peliter, just boiling it will produce nothing.
How do you plan to chill (remove the heat) on half of it?

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What's the hot water gonna do besides be hot? How do you get the energy out of it later? Thermo electric generators are horribly inefficient with small thermal gradients, less than 25% I'd say.

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With just water tubing and than you can have batteries that store the energy when it reach the limit i mean when there no more gradient or at night you can reverse it and use water as heat source and more water to still remove the heat if you need more electricity.

 

You're talking through your hat.
talk through your hat

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I guess Black sheet of metal can get more than 100° under the sun so the question is how much water you would need to maintain an acceptable gradient. and how much energy you want to generate how much hot water you need or can store every day ... Is not ready i discovered this yesterday. For the motor design would be much smarter because any way you are using the peltier to generate h2 and doing so you create more heat and so on. water can be used to refrigerate the modules and after to become h2 02. Just perfect. The only problem is that they cost quite a lot for today.

 

no i'm not i'm sharing with you something i should patent because i didn't found any patent doing exactly this yet.

 

I don't want your patent.

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Don't you think it is a good idea?

 

And considering the best thermo electric devices known are less than 50% efficient?

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Do you use electric shower or maybe natural gas? How much do you spent to have hot water? I'm thinking about to put 10 130W modules on 1 m2 black metal sheet and make the test. It will cost me 1000 euros and if it works i'm going to have maybe 800W/h of electricity and hot water on the end of the day. maybe wont work, as soon as i have the money i'm going to give this a try.

 

And what does that have to do with over unity? Heat storage is cool and all, and has nothing whatsoever to do with anything else said in this thread so far.

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You are right Sceadwian we lost the point. I created this thread to figure out the details of the circuits on the first post. Later i'm going to print them and write the parts that are already figured and scan it again for being more objective. If you know what kind of opamp is used on the resonant scanning circuit and possible values for resistors this part is ready. The other important part is the op amp for the feedback and the resistors values. See you later.
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You might have noticed that you posted in your own thread many times without a single reply?, this was probably because no one could understand the bizzare circuits and questions you were asking.

If these things worked they would post the circuits fully working with proven examples, but because they don't work they post crazy circuits that won't work anyway, and don't give the component values.

No one has yet shown any such design to ever work, no conspiracies, they just don't work - but to cover that fact they claim a mysterious 'government' is squashing all the results.

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I'm sorry Nigel but is a question of time that circuits from Stanley meyer that i posted work even i that don't have the all background in electronics understood how it works i'm just trying to find out the best components for the application.

So i'm going to repeat more clearly how it should work and in few hours i'm going to put the circuits again with components i already discovered.

First of all The 4046 pll generates a frequency witch depends on the R1 and R2 C1 and will lock within the lock range you chose and filter design values. The resonant scanning circuit is a saw tooth wave form generator a 555 timer and the op amp i don't know because i never used them and so i don't know which could be ok for this, the logic not gates and jfets block the frequency when it reach the resonance frequency because it receive the signal of the lock circuit 4001 nor witch is connected to pin 1 and 2 from 4046 pll. this is the basic than there is another pulse width modulator circuit that is going to gate the signal with a frequency lower than the first one just to control the on off time simple as that. I just don't know the op amps and resistor values. I going make the drawing of the all circuit connected together maybe this way is easier to understand.

The other circuit is What i call the infinite circuit that i'm going to try what i predicted with theory. Not sure.

The transformer i posted works just the way i said and like also Stanley Meyer said, it multiplies the voltage by more than 100 with the configuration i posted It works like this because of the diode and the charging chokes. What i want is to drive it on the resonant frequency. And thats why i want to figure out that circuit from meyer, because is able for sure to do what it is supposed to do.

thanks