This could be really big news.. Blacklight Power claims new energy source - Electronic Circuits Projects Diagrams Free

Charlie8311 · 25th October 2008, 07:06 AM

Hey.. maybe you guys here would be into this.. I am bursting to tell someone but no one I know would understand the implications. I almost don't myself. I have been following this story for a long time and have a gut feeling about this guy.

Blacklight Power bolsters its impossible claims of a new renewable energy source - NYTimes.com

Mikebits · 25th October 2008, 07:56 AM

My first bit of sceptisism is that this claim in the first article. "Blacklight is now saying that it has physical proof of its energy generator, verified by an independent university lab."
The supposed university that verified this is not supported with a link to the independent university.
To me, that is a red flag to the validity of the claim.

But we have to keep searching for the right answers to help mankind.

Charlie8311 · 25th October 2008, 08:02 AM

Do you mean an actual internet link Mike? Here is the document from the University..

http://blacklightpower.com/pdf/BLPIndependentReport.pdf

Here are some more articles..

randell mills - Google News

Mikebits · 25th October 2008, 08:42 AM

Not to continue being a skeptic, but that report you cited does not show up on any of my University journal search engines, I tried EBSCOHOST and Proquest but Nada. I question that it is valid since it is not written like normal journal papers, as it cites no sources. Further the link is provided by Blacklight Inc, rather than Rowan Uni. Don't take this as critisism, but rather I am a skeptic

Be that as it may, don't allow my skeptic behavior to influence you. I am curious as to what others might have to say.

Charlie8311 · 25th October 2008, 08:56 AM

This isn't quite what you are looking for but..

http://www.blacklightpower.com/Docum...t_video_v2.wmv

blueroomelectronics · 25th October 2008, 03:52 PM

Smells like baloney. The video proves nothing.

Charlie8311 · 25th October 2008, 10:21 PM

I would say the video proves something... that the study actually happened..

And other scientists have verified his results in the past, too. It seems to me that he is revealing more about the process the closer he gets to actually marketing this process. It seems he has been holding back until he fully understood what he was dealing with and all it's implications.

Papabravo · 25th October 2008, 11:21 PM

I think the chances of there being something there are vanishingly small. I guess a 47 year career in Engineering may have something to do with my opinion.

Charlie8311 · 25th October 2008, 11:29 PM

There are people with just as much experience who believe he is really on to something too.

MIT PHD's in fact.

Mikebits · 25th October 2008, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papabravo

I think the chances of there being something there are vanishingly small. I guess a 47 year career in Engineering may have something to do with my opinion.

Dang PapaBravo, you so old, I bet when you watched Jurassic Park it brought back memories

j/k

Papabravo · 26th October 2008, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie8311

There are people with just as much experience who believe he is really on to something too.

MIT PHD's in fact.

And it is my position, that it is time for them to stand and deliver if they can.

Charlie8311 · 26th October 2008, 12:50 AM

It takes time.. think how long it took between Einstein declaring E=mc2 to a working nuclear power plant. Mills' problem is that the blacklight combustion is a lot less obvious than a nuclear detonation.

Someone borught up an interesting point in a discussion about this. They said that when the Wright brothers first showed the flying machine they made no one really cared. It took years before the military figured out the implications of their flying machine and they were the only ones that cared at the time. Blacklight Power has been going through the same thing. They have made their information public for a long time. But people have just ignored it largely.

I don't think Mills really cared though because he wanted to commercialize it before someone else did anyway.

blueroomelectronics · 26th October 2008, 01:01 AM

The Wright brothers demonstrated a working device. It was not a mystery box with a magic element inside. It reminds me of Besslers wheel.
Johann Bessler - Orffyreus

Charlie8311 · 26th October 2008, 01:15 AM

That's exactly what this college has independently verified -- that what they say is going on in the box is actually happening -- a working device.

As for that Bessler example. There are 2 things with that:

1. Our scientific method has advanced a lot since then. I doubt these people that have tested Mills' process could be fooled repeatedly.

2. Bessler's device might have actually worked. Who knows?

blueroomelectronics · 26th October 2008, 01:51 AM

Well the burdon of proof lies with the inventors. Just like cold fusion.

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25th October 2008, 07:06 AM	(permalink)
Charlie8311	This could be really big news.. Blacklight Power claims new energy source Hey.. maybe you guys here would be into this.. I am bursting to tell someone but no one I know would understand the implications. I almost don't myself. I have been following this story for a long time and have a gut feeling about this guy. Blacklight Power bolsters its impossible claims of a new renewable energy source - NYTimes.com Last edited by Charlie8311; 25th October 2008 at 07:39 AM.

25th October 2008, 07:56 AM	(permalink)
Mikebits	My first bit of sceptisism is that this claim in the first article. "Blacklight is now saying that it has physical proof of its energy generator, verified by an independent university lab." The supposed university that verified this is not supported with a link to the independent university. To me, that is a red flag to the validity of the claim. But we have to keep searching for the right answers to help mankind. __________________ Pay it forward. Last edited by Mikebits; 25th October 2008 at 08:04 AM.

25th October 2008, 08:02 AM	(permalink)
Charlie8311	Do you mean an actual internet link Mike? Here is the document from the University.. http://blacklightpower.com/pdf/BLPIndependentReport.pdf Here are some more articles.. randell mills - Google News Last edited by Charlie8311; 25th October 2008 at 08:04 AM.

25th October 2008, 08:42 AM	(permalink)
Mikebits	Not to continue being a skeptic, but that report you cited does not show up on any of my University journal search engines, I tried EBSCOHOST and Proquest but Nada. I question that it is valid since it is not written like normal journal papers, as it cites no sources. Further the link is provided by Blacklight Inc, rather than Rowan Uni. Don't take this as critisism, but rather I am a skeptic Be that as it may, don't allow my skeptic behavior to influence you. I am curious as to what others might have to say. __________________ Pay it forward. Last edited by Mikebits; 25th October 2008 at 08:45 AM.

25th October 2008, 08:56 AM	(permalink)
Charlie8311	This isn't quite what you are looking for but.. http://www.blacklightpower.com/Docum...t_video_v2.wmv

25th October 2008, 03:52 PM	(permalink)
blueroomelectronics	Smells like baloney. The video proves nothing. __________________ Bill Smart Kits build Smart People http://www.blueroomelectronics.com

25th October 2008, 10:21 PM	(permalink)
Charlie8311	I would say the video proves something... that the study actually happened.. And other scientists have verified his results in the past, too. It seems to me that he is revealing more about the process the closer he gets to actually marketing this process. It seems he has been holding back until he fully understood what he was dealing with and all it's implications.

25th October 2008, 11:21 PM	(permalink)
Papabravo	I think the chances of there being something there are vanishingly small. I guess a 47 year career in Engineering may have something to do with my opinion. __________________ We never have time to do it right; but we always have time to do it over.

25th October 2008, 11:29 PM	(permalink)
Charlie8311	There are people with just as much experience who believe he is really on to something too. MIT PHD's in fact.

26th October 2008, 12:50 AM	(permalink)
Charlie8311	It takes time.. think how long it took between Einstein declaring E=mc2 to a working nuclear power plant. Mills' problem is that the blacklight combustion is a lot less obvious than a nuclear detonation. Someone borught up an interesting point in a discussion about this. They said that when the Wright brothers first showed the flying machine they made no one really cared. It took years before the military figured out the implications of their flying machine and they were the only ones that cared at the time. Blacklight Power has been going through the same thing. They have made their information public for a long time. But people have just ignored it largely. I don't think Mills really cared though because he wanted to commercialize it before someone else did anyway.

26th October 2008, 01:01 AM	(permalink)
blueroomelectronics	The Wright brothers demonstrated a working device. It was not a mystery box with a magic element inside. It reminds me of Besslers wheel. Johann Bessler - Orffyreus __________________ Bill Smart Kits build Smart People http://www.blueroomelectronics.com

26th October 2008, 01:15 AM	(permalink)
Charlie8311	That's exactly what this college has independently verified -- that what they say is going on in the box is actually happening -- a working device. As for that Bessler example. There are 2 things with that: 1. Our scientific method has advanced a lot since then. I doubt these people that have tested Mills' process could be fooled repeatedly. 2. Bessler's device might have actually worked. Who knows? Last edited by Charlie8311; 26th October 2008 at 01:24 AM.

26th October 2008, 01:51 AM	(permalink)
blueroomelectronics	Well the burdon of proof lies with the inventors. Just like cold fusion. __________________ Bill Smart Kits build Smart People http://www.blueroomelectronics.com