My SO found this. It shows what could be (can be?) done with the technology we have. Ford's thinking that the US will not buy a high mileage diesel car is a few years out of date ?


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Only a few European people in North america buy a smoking stinking noisy diesel car.
Diesel fuel costs more than gasoline.

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Diesel is actually cheaper to produce than petrol, it's just that the governement tax it more because it's more efficient so less of it is used.

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I think you would get a big shock if you had a drive of one of the modern diesel cars.

Mike.

 

Yup. They ain't farm truck engines in tiny little bodies anymore.


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We've just got a brand new Honda Civic cDTi 2.2 Turbo Diesel.

140Bhp, 350NM torque, top speed of over 120mph and up to 75MPG.

0-60mph in around 8.5 seconds as well.

Engine noise isn't that much more than a smaller engined "eco-car" and it will cruise in triple figured speeds (MPH) without breaking a sweat.

The car before that was a 2008 VW Golf 2.0 GT Tdi Sport automatic (DSG twin clutch automatic gearbox).

140Bhp, 320NM torque, top speed of over 120mph and around 65MPG.

Felt more refined and better built than the Honda and was much more fun to drive but was an extra £3000 more expensive than the Honda to buy.

You'd be shocked and impressed with some of the new diesels on the market these days.

 

Yes he would, I had a drive in a BMW 1 series diesel a few weeks ago, only 1.8L - yet it went like a rocket, you can't tell it's a diesel at all - apart from how little fuel you have to put in it

Also, Audi diesels have won the Le Mans 24 hour race the last few years.

I would suggest diesel is the way of the future, with diesel easily manufactured from many different sources.

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Modern diesels are quite good cars, I've driven a Ford Focus TDI, I can't remember what the engine size was but it was much faster than a 1.2L Renault Clio.

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It's about time Ford started making decent diesels - they used to be the worst ones you get get!.

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You've owned an old 1.8 Diesel Ford as well have you ?

I remember buying a low mileage 1995 Ford Fiesta 1.8 Diesel and it was a slug. Had around 60bhp, no turbo and the front end weighed more than the rest of the car put together. Getting round corners (without PAS) was a task and a half.

Saying that though I managed 270 miles in 3 hours in it once (on private roads of course) when I found myself at the wrong end of the country on Christmas day ........

 

No, but we used to have them at work - really terrible performance, low reliability - plus no PAS.

We've replaced Ford with Citroen Berlingo vans now - they are just so much better on all fronts.

Must have been a big private estate to have 270 miles of roads

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The SMART car is the only car on roads in Canada with a tiny little smoking stinking noisy diesel engine. Trains, school buses and trucks use diesel. Some buses are still diesel but now some use natural gas and diesel-electric hybrid. I saw some buses that use bio-fuel (used oil from french-fries?).
There are very few diesel cars, mostly Mercedes and Volkswagen.

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I guess you're just set in your ways. Funny how the old sayings are just so true. Can't teach an old dog. I'll bet the youngsters on here learn the new stuff so much quicker.

Mike.

 

I am an old dog in Cadada where inexpensive gasoline comes out of the ground and is not taxed to death.
I haven't been to the UK and Europe to see and smell the smoking stinking noisy tiny little diesel engines since about 43 years ago. The smoking stinking noisy tiny SMART car came to Canada, it is not made here (yet).

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Lol, you state in another thread that transistors were used hundreds of years ago and everyone now uses ICs and then state that diesels are (insert any derogatory term you can think of). You then state it's 43 years since you looked at one as they're not in Canada yet. What a small minded backward thinker you are. Obviously just living in the past. Wake up and smell, well, anything.

Mike.