It's like a christmas tree many branches that connect to your thread ? Still confused but cool.

How'd you do that ?

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Thanks for all of the facts. That really helps clear up the matter and avoids anyone having to do all those boring experiments.

Here is one you forgot:

FACT: Browns gas is what the Cleveland football (American football) team runs out of each November.

John

 

HAHA! My wife is from Wadsworth. She laughed at your comment and said "that's true". Heh...

Now, on topic, our boy Stan Meyers was from yer southern parts of OH. How come you don't back up one of your own? (BTW, j/k)

 

If you new the first thing about thermodynamics nube, you'd know that for greater efficiency the engine needs to be hotter, not cooler. The larger the temperature gradient the higher the possible thermodynamic efficiency.

Fact: ethanol can be made from non-renewable oil and desil can be made from renewable souces such as plants.

Your vein attempt at trying to blind us with science doesn't work, it makes you look like a total nubetard as, unlike on your forum, most people here know about the basic laws of physics

Even if you knew what you're talking about and you don't, how does this reinforce you argument?

Truth: it also takes as much energy to split 2H2O into 2H2+O2 than you get back when you recombine them to form 2H2O.

The only know way to get energy from water is to strip the hydrogen off it and perform nuclear fusion on it to produce helium (like stars do). Unfortunately this technology isn't advanced enough to give us a usable power source.

It's pretty obvious that no cold fusion is going on in your electrolysis cell so you're not gaining anything.

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I am confused. The coeffecient 2 proceeding H2O indicates 2 molecules of water. Therefore splitting 2H2O ----> H2O(g) + H2O(g).
Do you not mean H20--->H2(g) + O(g).

 

Hmmm interesting concept. A successive steam engine. Perhaps steam all together. I saw a thing on PBS where they had stated that a corn burning stove was very efficient. I just hate to see the food crop destroyed. It is obviously some sort of GMO corn which I believe over 50% is now anyway.

 

Maybe he meant hydrogen peroxide h2o2 (not 2h2o)?

 

No, I didn't I just ballanced the equation.

This isn't helped by the fact that the forum software doesn't allow for subscripts.

Your equation is not ballanced like mine is.

There's no such thing as O, unless you're talking about a free radical which would be O dot. Oxygen is diatomic meaning it's always O2 and so is hydrogen, H2.

The ratio of hydrogen to oxygen is 2:1 so you need two water molecules to get two H2 molecules and one O2 molecule and vice versa:

I'll do it in Latex to make it clearer.




Here's another example involving the combustion of methane CH4.

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I like your schematic just wondering if you thought of using a TC4420 Mosfet Driver and a couple other additions. It might get you closer to the results your looking for. Just a thought.

 

Point taken.

 

Am I late for church?

 

I think the welding aspect of HHO's amazingness comes from the monatomic state of Hydrogen and Oxygen. mainly just the hydrogen. Monatomic Hydrogen turns into a neutron if is expands. Well, it's neucleous does, the electron just goes awol.

HHO probably has plasmonic qualities, but I'm sure it is a mixture and not a compound as is suggested rather often. Hydrogen doesn't stay monatomic, not even in natural gas reserves. It is very unstable when it's monatomic. A little heat and it's a neutron.

But agreed, in all naturally observe states it is diatomic.

Ps. on free radicals... O- is a free radical. Because it has a valence of 7, and thus strips hydrogen from peptides. this is bad for the body. But we need junk removed from the body. So do we drink chlorine? no. we use valence 6 elements, ie Sulphur, Oxygen. I am terrified by the ignorance generated by calling Oxygen a free radical. We've been breathing for 3 Billion years, if it was bad for us, well, we wouldn't be here. O2 in the air, O1 in the blood.

We put Chlorine and flouride in our water system. Halogens!!
Why do we do it? Because it's done. It is prudent, but so were lead water pipes in Roman times. Observe the creation of the Hydroxyl Radical:

NaCl + H2O -> Na(+) + Cl(-) + H2O -> HCl + OH(-) + Na(+)

And that's just table salt...
But our bodies can handle a bit, and we need the sodium for pituitary and kidney function (and other stuff.. )

Anyway, just wanted to comment on how Halogens were the cause of non-fatal cell degradation and Free radical generation.

Valence 6 = Carbon grabber = Destroyer
Valence 7 = Hydrogen grabber = Damager

I'd rather have a dead cell than a damaged one, because it's easier to replace than repair in a body that make 300 million red blood cells a day.

Anyhow sorry again for the irrrelevance to our chosen topic.

 

You need to take a chemistry class at a local college...or even highschool. Enough said.

 

Yes, HHO is a mixture, not a compound, I don't think anyone was suggesting it was a compound.

I didn't think anyone was suggesting that oxygen in is most common form, O2, is a free radical - anyone with a basic knowledge of chemestry knows that.

All I was saying is that monatomic oxygen is a free radical.

You've confused me, what do you mean by O1 in the blood? I take it you're not talking about free radicals in the blood which doesn't happen in a healthy person. ;D

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Oxygen in its ground state -- the stuff you are breathing -- is a triplet and is commoningly referred to as a radical.

China arrested all of the other free radicals in preparation for the Olympics.


John