Try doing the same with a bucket of diesel, you will get the same effect!

NOT that I'm suggesting that water is in any way a fuel, just that it's not a very good demonstration.

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I really want to know if anyone can answer my Hexavalent question.


If the ppm ratio based on numbers of people and gallons of water will increase as more of these unit are built it has serious Health and Environmental Impact.

Because these HHO wana bees are not going to do anything but dump it out in gutters etc. Just like they did with waist oil before there was a law against it.

Now if you want to pay for waist removal after your HHO experiments and disposal which would need to be converted to a less damaging product or recycled ?

You shouldn't be selling a device much less teaching it to people who do not fully understand it's impact.

kv

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People are going to experiment. They are going to learn whether they're taught or experiment. Responsibility needs to be taught about this stuff. I'm sure it could just be filtered and reused which is what I plan to do now that I know. A movie called Erin Brokovich was supposedly made to make people aware of the dangers of this specific chemical. I plan to watch it soon.

 

What your facing is not a filtering question. What your facing is Ignorance.

Common (Mr. Joe Average) is not thinking the way you do at all. Your putting to much confidence that it will all just work itself out. Mr. Joe Average will just think it's just me how much if any impact will I have on the Environment.

What is not considered here is that there are thousands of such people plus you have the net to exploit and promote the idea. If the 80-20 principle is applied you would get an extraordinary number.

Try this if 80% of the people who do 20% of the work in any known group you get this.

20% of the people creating in reverse 80% of the work.

So, 10,000 people out of which you have 2,000 what are they doing well there watching your video's and creating these things without fully understanding that he is going to promote the idea to his friend who by the way is in the 80% category times that by let's say four friends 8,000 people unaware of the consequences or just don't give a damn.

So, now it has become popular to do it over time your number begins to grow in the amount of people willing to do it. Now it has just climbed as prices go higher at the pump. 8,000 plus time plus unknown amount of popularity.

Let's install congress who has to step in and begin the process of filtering the idiot's out and demanding that there be some sort of law against such disposal.

But not without the impact studies and environmental studies plus increase health cost.

Your talking to a down winder from the Nuclear Fallout Test's performed without this same knowledge. I live with damaged DNA and an Immune System disorders. All proven as Fact to be caused from Environmental Toxicity from this and other Chemicals that have leached there way into the ground water and air.

So you are only one out of 9 people. And the only other one of you are going to get it who represent the 20%.

But the other 8 or 80% will never get it or even care.

kv

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Well I am not convinced that Electrolysis using Stainless steel Plates Actually Creates this Hexavalant Gas.

Anyone can Write and Post Anything on the Internet. TRUE OR NOT!

But than, What about all the Stainless steel that goes into Landfills.

Electrolysis is also a Natural Process that can occur when two dissimular metals touch each other in the presence of water.

But Who Says: You Must use Stainless steel for Electrolysis?
Solid Nickel or Good Nickel plated Copper Electrode would be better.
Carbon Rods Work and so do Many other metals.

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Copper Sulfate is even worse. Copper and electrolysis not good either I am aware of electrolysis and it's natural occurrence.

Truth, there is nothing but silver that is supposed to be the only metal non-toxic to the human body but there is a limit to all things.

But alas Silver is much to softly bound to be able to withstand this process.

What about them it's not going to address someone purposely creating a colloidal form and then pouring the substance down a drain into water systems ?

You begin to have a lot of trouble when you put these people in a place of responsibility without measuring it's long term effects. And these are what we want to address.

If education and penalty's are in place that might dramatically reduce the numbers and create more commerce related to this if it has any promise at all.

But balancing such cost may out way the production or the benefits overall.

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The correct term is Galvanic corrosion.

Please read up what tempering is...or click here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&r...ition&ct=title

Throwing out random terms does a lot to one's credibility.

As for that comment...I never brought up any of my background in this thread until you asked. Obviously you didn't like my answer? Either way I was answering a question which was asked, which you cannot seem to do the same.

You conviently missed something.

 

What exactly is the point of your nitpicking words mr. turbo? Are you trying to impress us? or are you practicing for a degree in grammar? Your inability to grasp concepts is quite annoying actually.

 

Get serious or get the @#$% out. I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one who’s sick of your inane rhetoric.

So, let’s try this again:
What are your credentials?

 

You are another piece of work. Stick to the topic at hand. I'm sick of alot of things, but I don't get all personal and try to tear a person down, it's called hijacking a thread and is off topic. If you don't have anything good to say about someone, then don't say it.

 

Having demanded, received, and insulted another member's qualifications; it would only seem fair for you to also reveal your expert status.

 

I have no secret knowledge. I do have questions and I have ideas to put these HHO electrodes into a more predictable electrical circuit, i.e. submersed coils which right now I am very interested in. I think they would have a more predictable nature than concentric pipe or flat plates similar to your typical car battery.

I could give you all my biography way down to my HS science fair. I don't care and you dont care about my credentials. It is all in the here and now. I am here only to replicate ideas and to share likewise.

I could tell you: I was into audio sampling back in 1987. A simple memory counter and a simple 8 bit ADC/DAC timed together under control of a commodore 64 also a 4bit (4, 5% resistors multiplexed greyscale for 16 shades) video card with a 6845(or was it a 6545?) video chip to display the waveforms. I used the C-64 to stand in as a simulated rom OS with a chunk of shared RAM, programmed with 6502 assembly... That was back in the old days and since then, I've chosen to pursue the automotive field, and fell way behind in electronics.

I don't know transistor biasing, I sure as hell don't know JFETs or powerFET's. I do understand the basic if not more complicated theories related to PWM... The reason I chose to stay away from an ["office", translate white collar] job is because of the same BS I've seen in High School. cliques all over again, us versus them, instead of the best minds coming together... Go ahead and tear my post apart, it's your right

BTW ass, an insult given should be an insult expected. Now you show me your credentials or are you two one in the same huh? easy enough right?

 

Thank you for your honesty.
Insults and ad hominem attacks aren't a technical discussion.

I claim no technical expertise on this subject. My query was aimed at fairness.