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philba · 24th January 2007, 04:54 PM

I'm hoping breakthrough.

http://www.technologyreview.com/Biztech/18086/

**Nigel Goodwin** · 24th January 2007, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philba

I'm hoping breakthrough.

http://www.technologyreview.com/Biztech/18086/

You didn't bother reading the existing thread in Chit Chat then?.

philba · 24th January 2007, 07:38 PM

yup, you are right. but then, that's an odd place for that discussion - I never read that section.

and by the way, this is starting to look like a real advance in "battery" technology to use the term loosely. If it is a marketing triumph, they took in some pretty smart VCs (Kleiner Perkins) and solid techies. Not that it hasn't been done before...

I remain a skeptic until proven otherwise but it doesn't smell like a scam at this point. Only products out the door will shut up the doubters. I for one will not bemoan the passing of Li-Ion technology to the dustbins of history.

audioguru · 24th January 2007, 10:06 PM

The ZENN car looks like a little golf cart. A twisted rubber band will power it just as well as the newfangled batt/cap and a wimpy electric motor.

I thought the hybrid cars use a Ni-MH battery, not Lithium-Ion.

Sceadwian · 25th January 2007, 01:30 AM

Complete scam. I was the first reply to the thread in chit-chat I think, and it wasn't nice =)

philba · 25th January 2007, 08:15 PM

several electric cars use Li-Ion tech. the power to weight ratio makes it attractive.

The difference of this one from others is that they describe the actual device and are in the process of building proto units. They don't seem to use the language of the typical scammer.

If its a complete scam, it's amazingly good. what do you base your opinion on? Specific science or is this just the negative attitude you exhibited with the Wii?

Hero999 · 27th January 2007, 07:24 PM

Even though this is probably rubbish you don't need as much power with an electric motor because the torque is available lower down the speed range. The only real disadvantage is the top speed isn't as high as a petrol/diesel engine but it doesn't matter (in my opinion) providing it's above 85mph which is way above the maximum speed limit in most countries.

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24th January 2007, 04:54 PM	(permalink)
philba	breakthrough or scam? I'm hoping breakthrough. http://www.technologyreview.com/Biztech/18086/

24th January 2007, 07:38 PM	(permalink)
philba	yup, you are right. but then, that's an odd place for that discussion - I never read that section. and by the way, this is starting to look like a real advance in "battery" technology to use the term loosely. If it is a marketing triumph, they took in some pretty smart VCs (Kleiner Perkins) and solid techies. Not that it hasn't been done before... I remain a skeptic until proven otherwise but it doesn't smell like a scam at this point. Only products out the door will shut up the doubters. I for one will not bemoan the passing of Li-Ion technology to the dustbins of history.

24th January 2007, 10:06 PM	(permalink)
audioguru	The ZENN car looks like a little golf cart. A twisted rubber band will power it just as well as the newfangled batt/cap and a wimpy electric motor. I thought the hybrid cars use a Ni-MH battery, not Lithium-Ion. __________________ Uncle $crooge

25th January 2007, 01:30 AM	(permalink)
Sceadwian	Complete scam. I was the first reply to the thread in chit-chat I think, and it wasn't nice =) __________________ "Because I be what I be. I would tell you what you want to know if I could, mum, but I be a cat, and no cat anywhere ever gave anyone a straight answer, har har."

25th January 2007, 08:15 PM	(permalink)
philba	several electric cars use Li-Ion tech. the power to weight ratio makes it attractive. The difference of this one from others is that they describe the actual device and are in the process of building proto units. They don't seem to use the language of the typical scammer. If its a complete scam, it's amazingly good. what do you base your opinion on? Specific science or is this just the negative attitude you exhibited with the Wii?

27th January 2007, 07:24 PM	(permalink)
Hero999	Even though this is probably rubbish you don't need as much power with an electric motor because the torque is available lower down the speed range. The only real disadvantage is the top speed isn't as high as a petrol/diesel engine but it doesn't matter (in my opinion) providing it's above 85mph which is way above the maximum speed limit in most countries. __________________ I also post at the following sites: http://www.stop-microsoft.org http://www.heated-debates.com Screen name: Aloone_Jonez