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Thunderchild · 8th April 2007, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by FUEL-MISER

HI YOU ALL.. here is what i think it will work the hydrogen generators i made a small proto type it size slightly bigger than a quart ..i set it at just 2 amps wow the bubbles came slowly but after just a few minutes it was working great.. i found most every thing at yard sales for mere pennies ...so now my next project is going to be a 3 gallon size...i,ll do the testing in my back yard out of sight of neighbors......oh yes it helped my gas milllage by about 2 miles better...realise it just a slightly bigger than a quart.....so you dont have to spend much money to give your device a try and see how it really works. ...amd of course it doesnt heat up...i hung it in front of the radiator between the radiator and grill only place i could...

I heard you can get drunk on water... you didn't go and inhale pure hydrogen did you I bet that would be much more intoxicating

philba · 8th April 2007, 05:06 PM

We're you the guy that went all the way from NYC to LA on a couple quarts of water? I've got these guys from Nigeria that want to invest in you. Just send me your email address...

FUEL-MISER · 8th April 2007, 05:20 PM

Who Cares What You Think..

Thunderchild · 8th April 2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FUEL-MISER

Who Cares What You Think..

referred to who please ? do you have a problem with a member of the board ?

philba · 8th April 2007, 07:55 PM

This cracks me up. You actually expect people to believe your bs? then you really should take me up on my offer.

Thunderchild · 8th April 2007, 08:04 PM

yea he is probably travelling china from north to south by now selling his new invention

-=GST=- Nemisis (cs/cz) · 8th April 2007, 08:22 PM

just read this

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Originally Posted by ebay

This Generator separates Hydrogen Atom's From Water,H20.It seperate's the H Atom from water in the form of HYDROGEN GAS!!! You can run this gas in your car By Hooking it to your cars intake manifold.On fuelinjected car's, the Hydrogen inter the engine giving a rich mixture.The oxygen sencer picks up this mixture and slows down the fuel injection's pulse.This save you gas and allow's the engine to run on the Hydrogen.

This can barely form a sentence with all those big words, he can't even spell sensor. dont get scammed.

having said that, on this topic i did see a web site where a guy built a home made system which extracted hydrogen from water which he used to power a blow tourch. of course it did use more energy to break the water in hydrogen and oxygen (or O2-?) than was given off by the blow torch but he said it was useful because he only had to pay for electricity and not the fuel.

frankspeaks · 9th April 2007, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by -=GST=- Nemisis (cs/cz)

just read this

This can barely form a sentence with all those big words, he can't even spell sensor. dont get scammed.

having said that, on this topic i did see a web site where a guy built a home made system which extracted hydrogen from water which he used to power a blow tourch. of course it did use more energy to break the water in hydrogen and oxygen (or O2-?) than was given off by the blow torch but he said it was useful because he only had to pay for electricity and not the fuel.

Hello, this is my first post.
The guy you refer to I think got a patent on that machine, it is used for making jewelry. It also can be used as a plasma cutter.
He sells them and leases them to companys.
The machine is unique in that it is cheaper to use than buying a jewelers oxy/acetelene rig ( when you figure in the cost of gases over a number of years.) Add to that the fact that it doesn't emit dangerous fumes....

gibsonrockin247 · 1st June 2007, 01:04 PM

I have installed one of these units on my 1990 chevrolet pickup. 350 engine extended cab, 3/4 ton. I started on testing the gas milage . It was almost 16.5 miles to the gallon, as of know it is getting 20 miles to the gallon. The unit pulls 25 amps, and if the company that i bought it from had a really good electronics circuit i believe that it could be increased to a 40% increase in fuel savings instead of 20%. This unit uses potassium hydroxide as a medium to get the electroylises going. In my estimation it works very well. Further tests coming. Does anyone know some that could make a simple electronics circuit for me?

Thunderchild · 1st June 2007, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Oznog

However, note hydrogen generation is not the real problem. The real problem is that burning in an internal combustion engine is like 15% efficient at getting torque (and alternator energy) back. A fuel cell is much more efficient, though there are still significant ineffiencies.

last i heard the petrol engine is about 30-35 % lower if idleing in traffic jams

Thunderchild · 1st June 2007, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gibsonrockin247

I have installed one of these units on my 1990 chevrolet pickup. 350 engine extended cab, 3/4 ton. I started on testing the gas milage . It was almost 16.5 miles to the gallon, as of know it is getting 20 miles to the gallon. The unit pulls 25 amps, and if the company that i bought it from had a really good electronics circuit i believe that it could be increased to a 40% increase in fuel savings instead of 20%. This unit uses potassium hydroxide as a medium to get the electroylises going. In my estimation it works very well. Further tests coming. Does anyone know some that could make a simple electronics circuit for me?

what exactly is this thing, please remember that in nature (ie anywhere on this planet and all over the universe) nothing is created and nothing is destroyed everything is trandformed, now unless an engine efficiency magically becomes 100 % when run on hydrogen what i think you are describing is not possible

gibsonrockin247 · 1st June 2007, 08:53 PM

Well everything sometimes is to simple for people to understand, A closed mind is a fault of the owner of it.
This is a very simple canister of stainless steel, with a plastic insert sealed. It has two stainless 304 coils in it with stainless electrodes coming to the top of it and a fill tube for water. One electrode is for positive and one is for negetive. Just fill with distilled water and add 2 tablespoons of potassium hydroxide , and turn the power on that is coming from a 12 vdc battery through a 40 amp breaker through a amp meter through a starter selennoid. hook a hose from the elextrolizer to the air intake of your air cleaner. A 20 percent fuel increase the first day I drove it. I know that you won't believe it but prove to yourself try it. If you would like information on this company that sells them i will send it to you . Gibbs

mneary · 1st June 2007, 09:10 PM

First, a lot of vehicles on the road can get 20% mileage improvement with a simple tune up, especially if they were made before the ECUs got really sophisticated. Most of the magic devices on the market find this is all they need to get a few honest yet glowing testimonials.

Second, 20 MPG is good for a 6 liter engine, but it's not spectacular.

Third, some of the magic devices fool the engine controls, improving mileage at the cost of lower horsepower and/or greater emissions. Has this vehicle been tested for emissions since the modifications?

Finally, for many drivers (including myself), a 20% improvement can easily be gained with a little block of wood under the accelerator, keeping it off the floor. I suppose a clever limit to the fuel flow or pressure would accomplish the same thing.

mneary · 1st June 2007, 09:46 PM

Hmmm, 1990 Chevrolet pickup? Carburetor?

gibsonrockin247 · 1st June 2007, 09:49 PM

No NO tune up . Just drive like you always do . seems like some people really don't understand how hydrogen works. you add it to the engine and the computer reads the gas coming after burning........ This little computer adjusts the throttle position sensor to use less gas, Why because it has to much gas [ gasoline and hydrogen]. So it adjusts it for less gasoline, simply uses less gasoline. And it is not a 6.0 liter it is a 5.7 liter, and for a 1990 16.5 is great, but it gets 20 now. And if it gets better gas mileage why would emission be worse. But I like your Idea so I will run it through a gas analyser to check. Thanks for the info. hmmmm throttle body. Gibbs

8th April 2007, 05:20 PM	(permalink)
FUEL-MISER New Member	Who Cares ! Who Cares What You Think..

8th April 2007, 08:04 PM	(permalink)
Thunderchild Experienced Member	yea he is probably travelling china from north to south by now selling his new invention __________________ I AM the exeption that disproves the rule in many ways but the rules still apply (unfortunately) my site:www.simons-photography.com http://rushdenrotaract.org.uk see also http://www.bigstockphoto.com/account...fid=m2URATYch5 http://www.redbubble.com/people/simonsphotography

1st June 2007, 01:04 PM	(permalink)
gibsonrockin247 New Member	Hydrogen generator I have installed one of these units on my 1990 chevrolet pickup. 350 engine extended cab, 3/4 ton. I started on testing the gas milage . It was almost 16.5 miles to the gallon, as of know it is getting 20 miles to the gallon. The unit pulls 25 amps, and if the company that i bought it from had a really good electronics circuit i believe that it could be increased to a 40% increase in fuel savings instead of 20%. This unit uses potassium hydroxide as a medium to get the electroylises going. In my estimation it works very well. Further tests coming. Does anyone know some that could make a simple electronics circuit for me?

1st June 2007, 08:53 PM	(permalink)
gibsonrockin247 New Member	RE hydrogen Well everything sometimes is to simple for people to understand, A closed mind is a fault of the owner of it. This is a very simple canister of stainless steel, with a plastic insert sealed. It has two stainless 304 coils in it with stainless electrodes coming to the top of it and a fill tube for water. One electrode is for positive and one is for negetive. Just fill with distilled water and add 2 tablespoons of potassium hydroxide , and turn the power on that is coming from a 12 vdc battery through a 40 amp breaker through a amp meter through a starter selennoid. hook a hose from the elextrolizer to the air intake of your air cleaner. A 20 percent fuel increase the first day I drove it. I know that you won't believe it but prove to yourself try it. If you would like information on this company that sells them i will send it to you . Gibbs

1st June 2007, 09:49 PM	(permalink)
gibsonrockin247 New Member	Is the sun shining yet No NO tune up . Just drive like you always do . seems like some people really don't understand how hydrogen works. you add it to the engine and the computer reads the gas coming after burning........ This little computer adjusts the throttle position sensor to use less gas, Why because it has to much gas [ gasoline and hydrogen]. So it adjusts it for less gasoline, simply uses less gasoline. And it is not a 6.0 liter it is a 5.7 liter, and for a 1990 16.5 is great, but it gets 20 now. And if it gets better gas mileage why would emission be worse. But I like your Idea so I will run it through a gas analyser to check. Thanks for the info. hmmmm throttle body. Gibbs Last edited by gibsonrockin247; 1st June 2007 at 10:13 PM.

8th April 2007, 05:06 PM	(permalink)
philba Experienced Member	We're you the guy that went all the way from NYC to LA on a couple quarts of water? I've got these guys from Nigeria that want to invest in you. Just send me your email address...

8th April 2007, 07:55 PM	(permalink)
philba Experienced Member	This cracks me up. You actually expect people to believe your bs? then you really should take me up on my offer.

1st June 2007, 09:10 PM	(permalink)
mneary Experienced Member	First, a lot of vehicles on the road can get 20% mileage improvement with a simple tune up, especially if they were made before the ECUs got really sophisticated. Most of the magic devices on the market find this is all they need to get a few honest yet glowing testimonials. Second, 20 MPG is good for a 6 liter engine, but it's not spectacular. Third, some of the magic devices fool the engine controls, improving mileage at the cost of lower horsepower and/or greater emissions. Has this vehicle been tested for emissions since the modifications? Finally, for many drivers (including myself), a 20% improvement can easily be gained with a little block of wood under the accelerator, keeping it off the floor. I suppose a clever limit to the fuel flow or pressure would accomplish the same thing.

1st June 2007, 09:46 PM	(permalink)
mneary Experienced Member	Hmmm, 1990 Chevrolet pickup? Carburetor?

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