You didn't describe the cell you made mramos, I was describing the cell in the patent. You said "cell I built", I was assuming it was linked to the patent one. To avoid further miscommunication fully describing exactly your intent and methods might help =)

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If you're talking about using a slow draw from the alternator over time to separate the hydrogen and oxygen in the water that's okay, but only for peak power. I'd be curious to see how much separated hydrogen and oxygen could be added to the vehicles normal fuel/air mixture. I don't know the temperature/pressure required to make a hydrogen oxygen mixture combust but if it closely enough matches the native compression ratio of the car it would make a self recharging turbo booster just add water.

Even if you do that, it's still going to result in less gas mileage, because no matter how much you note that the sollution didn't heat up, it did, at least a few degrees and that's wasted energy to heat, in the volumes you end up with the thermal loss makes total system efficiency pretty horrible.

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I am talking a low draw from the alternator. Basically boost the octane.

Native is a word that sort of fits as old cars have tach/dwel/jets and new have computers. But if it looks like better gas and the drag on the alternator/generator is low? Now under the hot hood it could change things too.

But it is an idea I had. And the Chemist "Dave" is working on the patent for fun as his hobby (and my lord we can not talk trades but he did make a simple version of breakig up water for me that I dropped at the bottom of my last post.). I did some electronics for him to time his changes to the patent mentioned in this thread. My project is something unrelated.. Sorry I mixed them.

I was hopping around. Saw your posted that a Chemist was stupid because he put H2 for H (assuming his assistant did not write it) and it can never work. And dropped in my weird findings on water and metal project I did months ago. Trust me, I am no expert in this field but I was impressed. Are you a Chemist and Electronic guy both? Etiher way I need room in the garage and this thing goes to a guy with a Jeep and I gain space.

In time we will see.. I can feel it is slightly warm in the center. I think there is a lot of waste under the hood of a car. This is the only "real" project I have worked on in Hydrogen since it takes so much power to make little gas. I think the alternator pumps whatever you need and the mileage does not really change a lot for less than an amp. I might be (or in your case "am") wrong.

Gonna go to work with the radio off this week and save some money..

Just kidding with you, but that might work for my son.

 

I think you're missing a fundamental understanding of basic thermodynamics. When you use electricity to split water (or any hydrogen containing substance) into issolated hydrogen gas you lose some of that energy as heat in the process, that energy is lost and can never be regained. The same thing is going to happen when you use some method to turn that hydrogen back into useable energy. You're drawing energy from the alternator and using it to covert a liquid into a gas that is easy to extract energy from, and then using that gas in some process to gain useable energy. The entire process can be made more efficiant by simply NOT drawing energy in the first place. The alternator does not waste any electricty when it's not driving a load, as soon as you connect a device to the alternator it creates a load and draws energy from the engine. You're just moving it around and wasteing tonnes of it in the process. I'm not trying to prove you wrong here but you seem to have a lack of basic physics let alone what use hydrogen can be for a power source.
If it's how you want to spend your time, so be it, but you'd be better spending your time understanding why it is things like that aren't practical.

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I thought converted to some other form of energy? Power turns to heat and gas. When burns it become heat and water. Nothing is lost, only what part was I able to use and yes I know it is not possible. You are missing the fact that I am going to see what it does. I think we covered this enough times.

I really have no interest in understanding hydogen. What part about, I read an article, made a cell (as it was too simple), giving it to someone to play with.

Believe it or not, there are people out there that do not know electronics, but come here, get a circuit, make the circuit and are happy (and do not want to understand electronics). Better chance the circuit will work than this I agree.

Anyway, this repeating is getting old. I think you made you point and I tryied to make mine.