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Roff · 18th August 2006, 05:51 PM

Forgive me if this has already been discussed here. I did a search for "Steorn" and it came up empty.
Have you guys seen Steorn's claims?

philba · 18th August 2006, 06:17 PM

uh, they lost me on the second sentence where they claim greater than 100% efficiency.

The Mad Professor · 18th August 2006, 07:18 PM

The Casimir effect is well documented , and lithography of silicon has improved tremendously over the last few years,so it would be plausible to accept that someone actually had created a nano sized quantum oscillator / generator. However research in this field is going to be anything but cheap and I wonder...

Does anyone know who is backing Steorn financially ?

Roff · 18th August 2006, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mad Professor

The Casimir effect is well documented , and lithography of silicon has improved tremendously over the last few years,so it would be plausible to accept that someone actually had created a nano sized quantum oscillator / generator. However research in this field is going to be anything but cheap and I wonder...

Does anyone know who is backing Steorn financially ?

Can you point to where they talk about the Casimir effect?

The Mad Professor · 18th August 2006, 09:32 PM

Well Ron , it does not actually mention the Casimir effect.

However of all the free energy claims and hoaxes that circulate only one makes the claim of being over 100% efficient and thats the quantum oscillator.

My feelings are mixed , yes I would like it to be real , but knarled old sceptic that I am... I do have doubts, the site has no "meat", no science, it tugs at the emotions but offers little else. I sat through the video of the CEO and the marketing manager... and am fighting the urge to go over to Dublin and slap the pair of them , if what they claim is true then personally I would look a bit more exited. The CEO looks like he's about to be bumrushed in a prison cell.

philba · 18th August 2006, 10:01 PM

it's funny but none of these outfits that make "free energy" claims ever actually demonstrate a device that does such. Or show a house with no grid hookup or a car with no fuel tank or charging recepticle.

**Nigel Goodwin** · 18th August 2006, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philba

it's funny but none of these outfits that make "free energy" claims ever actually demonstrate a device that does such. Or show a house with no grid hookup or a car with no fuel tank or charging recepticle.

And you're never likely to! - they are just scammers, just hoping to presuade gullible people to give them money!.

mramos1 · 19th August 2006, 01:12 AM

But they state on their site, they are not looking for funding of any kind...

Right.....

**Nigel Goodwin** · 19th August 2006, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mramos1

But they state on their site, they are not looking for funding of any kind...

Right.....

That's probably to make people think it's not a scam!.

Analog · 19th August 2006, 12:33 PM

Ron, here is a link to their video if it helps. I call bunk!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...33525509845733

Roff · 19th August 2006, 02:05 PM

Guys, I was't endorsing Steorn. I just think it will be interesting to see how this all shakes out.

The Mad Professor · 19th August 2006, 05:21 PM

Dug up this article about Steorn from the sunday business post archive
full article here:
http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/...story14326.asp

Here are some of the eyebrow raising snippits that may be worth following..

Sunday, May 21, 2006 - By Gavin Daly

Sean McCarthy, the cofounder and chief executive of Steorn, said the firm’s products were based on the same principle as kinetic energy generators in watches. The products should be ready by the summer of 2007.

He set up Steorn with consultant Mike Daly, Shaun Menzies of internet firm Zartis, and Francis Hackett, the managing partner of O’Donnell Sweeney solicitors in Dublin.

Steorn worked on some of the biggest internet projects in Ireland, including Fyffes’ Worldoffruit.com portal, but had to restructure after the boom ended.

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Misdirection to conceal the true nature of the product or mumbo-jumbo to hoodwink the gullable?

Shaking my cell-phone to charge the battery holds no appeal ,let alone an automobile lol . I've owned a faraday coil flashlight and getting that charged was a pain.

philba · 19th August 2006, 07:26 PM

If they will have products in a year or less, then they must have prototypes working now. Let us see them in action... Consider me from Missouri.

mramos1 · 19th August 2006, 11:25 PM

I watched the video and I could not really see what they were selling. After the video, I still have no idea. I was looking for some product or something.

All the quotes and drama too. But they are all over the internet.

Quote:

Steorn is making three claims for its technology:

The technology has a coefficient of performance greater than 100%.
The operation of the technology (i.e. the creation of energy) is not derived from the degradation of its component parts.
There is no identifiable environmental source of the energy (as might be witnessed by a cooling of ambient air temperature).

The sum of these claims is that our technology creates free energy.

mramos1 · 20th August 2006, 04:26 PM

RonH

http://www.keelynet.com/ first article today. Looks like the borrowed some ideas.

18th August 2006, 05:51 PM	(permalink)
Roff Experienced Member	Steorn Forgive me if this has already been discussed here. I did a search for "Steorn" and it came up empty. Have you guys seen Steorn's claims? __________________ Ron

18th August 2006, 07:18 PM	(permalink)
The Mad Professor Experienced Member	The Casimir effect is well documented , and lithography of silicon has improved tremendously over the last few years,so it would be plausible to accept that someone actually had created a nano sized quantum oscillator / generator. However research in this field is going to be anything but cheap and I wonder... Does anyone know who is backing Steorn financially ? __________________ It may seem like a good idea at the time , but never stir your cold coffee with a soldering iron.

18th August 2006, 09:32 PM	(permalink)
The Mad Professor Experienced Member	Well Ron , it does not actually mention the Casimir effect. However of all the free energy claims and hoaxes that circulate only one makes the claim of being over 100% efficient and thats the quantum oscillator. My feelings are mixed , yes I would like it to be real , but knarled old sceptic that I am... I do have doubts, the site has no "meat", no science, it tugs at the emotions but offers little else. I sat through the video of the CEO and the marketing manager... and am fighting the urge to go over to Dublin and slap the pair of them , if what they claim is true then personally I would look a bit more exited. The CEO looks like he's about to be bumrushed in a prison cell. __________________ It may seem like a good idea at the time , but never stir your cold coffee with a soldering iron.

19th August 2006, 12:33 PM	(permalink)
Analog Experienced Member	Ron, here is a link to their video if it helps. I call bunk! http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...33525509845733 __________________ "Everything that is done in the world is done by hope." -Martin Luther "There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle."-Albert Einstein

19th August 2006, 02:05 PM	(permalink)
Roff Experienced Member	Guys, I was't endorsing Steorn. I just think it will be interesting to see how this all shakes out. __________________ Ron

18th August 2006, 06:17 PM	(permalink)
philba Experienced Member	uh, they lost me on the second sentence where they claim greater than 100% efficiency.

18th August 2006, 10:01 PM	(permalink)
philba Experienced Member	it's funny but none of these outfits that make "free energy" claims ever actually demonstrate a device that does such. Or show a house with no grid hookup or a car with no fuel tank or charging recepticle.

19th August 2006, 01:12 AM	(permalink)
mramos1 Experienced Member	But they state on their site, they are not looking for funding of any kind... Right.....

19th August 2006, 05:21 PM	(permalink)
The Mad Professor Experienced Member	A little digging later... Dug up this article about Steorn from the sunday business post archive full article here: http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/...story14326.asp Here are some of the eyebrow raising snippits that may be worth following.. Sunday, May 21, 2006 - By Gavin Daly Sean McCarthy, the cofounder and chief executive of Steorn, said the firm’s products were based on the same principle as kinetic energy generators in watches. The products should be ready by the summer of 2007. He set up Steorn with consultant Mike Daly, Shaun Menzies of internet firm Zartis, and Francis Hackett, the managing partner of O’Donnell Sweeney solicitors in Dublin. Steorn worked on some of the biggest internet projects in Ireland, including Fyffes’ Worldoffruit.com portal, but had to restructure after the boom ended. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Misdirection to conceal the true nature of the product or mumbo-jumbo to hoodwink the gullable? Shaking my cell-phone to charge the battery holds no appeal ,let alone an automobile lol . I've owned a faraday coil flashlight and getting that charged was a pain. __________________ It may seem like a good idea at the time , but never stir your cold coffee with a soldering iron.

19th August 2006, 07:26 PM	(permalink)
philba Experienced Member	If they will have products in a year or less, then they must have prototypes working now. Let us see them in action... Consider me from Missouri.

20th August 2006, 04:26 PM	(permalink)
mramos1 Experienced Member	RonH http://www.keelynet.com/ first article today. Looks like the borrowed some ideas.

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