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mramos1 · 26th August 2006, 11:43 AM

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus...0608251921.htm

Roff · 26th August 2006, 02:16 PM

Can anyone think of a good reason not to demonstrate working hardware? The only reason I can think of is:

They don't have working hardware!

mramos1 · 26th August 2006, 04:50 PM

They talk a great story, and man are they all over the internet now.

But that is a very good point, as well this seems to a pattern on the new energy products.

Hero999 · 26th August 2006, 07:48 PM

Funney that isn't it?

Analog · 26th August 2006, 09:05 PM

Too similar to cold fusion...

Pommie · 27th August 2006, 05:40 AM

Isn't a heat pump over 100% efficient? For every KW of electricity you put in, you get 2.5KW of heat energy out. 250% efficient.

Mike.

**Nigel Goodwin** · 27th August 2006, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pommie

Isn't a heat pump over 100% efficient? For every KW of electricity you put in, you get 2.5KW of heat energy out. 250% efficient.

No, the clue is in the name! - 'pump' - you're simply pumping heat from one place to another.

Pommie · 27th August 2006, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

No, the clue is in the name! - 'pump' - you're simply pumping heat from one place to another.

I know how they work, maybe I should have added the words "appear to be" in the above statement.

BTW, how have they managed to get a patent, I thought the patent office would not accept any patents for perpetual motion machines.

Mike.

**Nigel Goodwin** · 27th August 2006, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pommie

I know how they work, maybe I should have added the words "appear to be" in the above statement.

Except it doesn't "appear to be" in any way whatsoever? - it's really no different to using an electric pump to pump fuel into a boiler.

Quote:

BTW, how have they managed to get a patent, I thought the patent office would not accept any patents for perpetual motion machines.

It depends what the patent is actually for?, I doubt it's a patent for a "perpetual motion machine"?.

Roff · 27th August 2006, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pommie

BTW, how have they managed to get a patent, I thought the patent office would not accept any patents for perpetual motion machines.

Mike.

They have discussed that issue on their web site.

**Nigel Goodwin** · 27th August 2006, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron H

They have discussed that issue on their web site.

Would that be in the 'fiction' section at the library?

mramos1 · 27th August 2006, 03:36 PM

I guess we have to wait and see.. What we are gonna see?

**Nigel Goodwin** · 27th August 2006, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mramos1

I guess we have to wait and see.. What we are gonna see?

Well they have had years, managed to con millions of pounds, and aren't able to even give a demonstration! - I don't think it's going to end well?.

Hero999 · 27th August 2006, 04:14 PM

It looks like there's money to be made. I think I'll start doing some research into perpetual motion machines *cough* erm scams.

mramos1 · 27th August 2006, 04:16 PM

This one is like the perendev magnetic motor, finally disappeared. If nothing else, they know how to get people to look at them. Marketing is there expertise I take it.

26th August 2006, 02:16 PM	(permalink)
Roff Experienced Member	Can anyone think of a good reason not to demonstrate working hardware? The only reason I can think of is: They don't have working hardware! __________________ Ron

26th August 2006, 07:48 PM	(permalink)
Hero999 Experienced Member	Funney that isn't it? __________________ What's so bad about Microsoft? Get Opera it's simply a superb browser.

26th August 2006, 09:05 PM	(permalink)
Analog Experienced Member	Too similar to cold fusion... __________________ "Everything that is done in the world is done by hope." -Martin Luther "There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle."-Albert Einstein

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Hero999 Experienced Member	It looks like there's money to be made. I think I'll start doing some research into perpetual motion machines cough erm scams. __________________ What's so bad about Microsoft? Get Opera it's simply a superb browser.

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26th August 2006, 11:43 AM	(permalink)
mramos1 Experienced Member	http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus...0608251921.htm

26th August 2006, 04:50 PM	(permalink)
mramos1 Experienced Member	They talk a great story, and man are they all over the internet now. But that is a very good point, as well this seems to a pattern on the new energy products.

27th August 2006, 05:40 AM	(permalink)
Pommie Experienced Member	Isn't a heat pump over 100% efficient? For every KW of electricity you put in, you get 2.5KW of heat energy out. 250% efficient. Mike.

27th August 2006, 03:36 PM	(permalink)
mramos1 Experienced Member	I guess we have to wait and see.. What we are gonna see?

27th August 2006, 04:16 PM	(permalink)
mramos1 Experienced Member	This one is like the perendev magnetic motor, finally disappeared. If nothing else, they know how to get people to look at them. Marketing is there expertise I take it.